habanero's 1996 4Runner Build-Up Thread
#3081
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Some cool pics Hab. I visited some of those places when I was really young, sadly I don't remember a lot about it.
However I drive by Cadillac Ranch a couple times a week so maybe that makes up for it.
However I drive by Cadillac Ranch a couple times a week so maybe that makes up for it.
#3082
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Hey Jason. We only did a 3500 miles of driving this go-round (and caught up on the Toyota Trucks and Trails podcast, which were awesome). I like to drive but I don't know how you do it, the way some of us goofballs drive around big rigs. Cadillac Ranch was more interesting than I thought it'd be, a fun half hour. Driving from St. Louis to Santa Fe, that was 1 long and interesting day. We took 3 days with sights to see and things to do on the way back home from Albuquerque. You have my respect, sir.
#3083
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Hey Hab, I'm considering the heated mirror upgrade that you have detailed on pages 132-133 here. Couple questions, if I may:
- Despite my 99 being a base model the wiring harness has the 6-pin connector with 5 wires going into it, but only three out to the mirror itself. Does this tell me that though my mirrors are non-heated the truck is actually wired for heated mirrors?
- Can you use "late" style guts (00-02) in an "early" mirror housing (96-99)? I assume no...
Thanks!
- Despite my 99 being a base model the wiring harness has the 6-pin connector with 5 wires going into it, but only three out to the mirror itself. Does this tell me that though my mirrors are non-heated the truck is actually wired for heated mirrors?
- Can you use "late" style guts (00-02) in an "early" mirror housing (96-99)? I assume no...
Thanks!
#3084
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Thread Starter
I....don't know. It seems a reasonable assumption. Do you get power when you hit the defrost button? That would prolly be the easiest way to tell as the green and white/black wire (or whatever colors you have for those two unused wires) should be for the heating element.
- Can you use "late" style guts (00-02) in an "early" mirror housing (96-99)?
Because I have only a 96 and the hubby's 99 I'm not sure. IF I remember correctly the late style is shaped a little different and therefore not switchable but I'm not 100% sure and wouldn't know what year they changed. A cardboard template of your mirror- or your actual mirror- would make a quick junkyard comparison simpler....
Last edited by habanero; 03-23-2017 at 06:34 PM.
#3085
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Somebody is having trouble with something they are trying to set up using some of the info on one of my repairs. I feel awful about it. I feel responsible for their trouble though we're not even sure yet that it has something to do with something I posted. From what they've described they went beyond what I did but used my info to get there. Still feel terrible and am trying to figure out what they did that it might get the situation resolved. Am awaiting their answers to some questions I had to see if I can help.
So a friendly neighborhood reminder:
I am not a mechanic, just a curiostic. A tinker. A fiddler. A jack of no trades. All the stuff I've got in here I hope will help people BUT I also hope everyone understands that everything here is info on what worked (or didn't work) for me and is, as always, at your own risk.
The person is not accusing me of anything beyond supplying info, which is true. Still, posting the info is still a risk that I take that may encourage others to take their own risk and results may vary.
It does make me wonder about this thread and what its future will be. I enjoy sharing this junk with people and especially the input and helpful info you all share with me.
Okay.
So enjoy, as always, at your own risk.
So a friendly neighborhood reminder:
I am not a mechanic, just a curiostic. A tinker. A fiddler. A jack of no trades. All the stuff I've got in here I hope will help people BUT I also hope everyone understands that everything here is info on what worked (or didn't work) for me and is, as always, at your own risk.
The person is not accusing me of anything beyond supplying info, which is true. Still, posting the info is still a risk that I take that may encourage others to take their own risk and results may vary.
It does make me wonder about this thread and what its future will be. I enjoy sharing this junk with people and especially the input and helpful info you all share with me.
Okay.
So enjoy, as always, at your own risk.
#3086
Registered User
I go through the same thing sometimes Hab. You have been a wealth of knowledge for a lot of us, you inspire a lot of us, and you do better more informative write ups than most of us. This thread is a go to for tons of us.
Feeling bad makes you a good person, nobody at HAYNES feels bad about there somewhat crappy publications.
Feeling bad makes you a good person, nobody at HAYNES feels bad about there somewhat crappy publications.
#3087
Somebody is having trouble with something they are trying to set up using some of the info on one of my repairs. I feel awful about it. I feel responsible for their trouble though we're not even sure yet that it has something to do with something I posted. From what they've described they went beyond what I did but used my info to get there. Still feel terrible and am trying to figure out what they did that it might get the situation resolved. Am awaiting their answers to some questions I had to see if I can help.
So a friendly neighborhood reminder:
I am not a mechanic, just a curiostic. A tinker. A fiddler. A jack of no trades. All the stuff I've got in here I hope will help people BUT I also hope everyone understands that everything here is info on what worked (or didn't work) for me and is, as always, at your own risk.
The person is not accusing me of anything beyond supplying info, which is true. Still, posting the info is still a risk that I take that may encourage others to take their own risk and results may vary.
It does make me wonder about this thread and what its future will be. I enjoy sharing this junk with people and especially the input and helpful info you all share with me.
Okay.
So enjoy, as always, at your own risk.
So a friendly neighborhood reminder:
I am not a mechanic, just a curiostic. A tinker. A fiddler. A jack of no trades. All the stuff I've got in here I hope will help people BUT I also hope everyone understands that everything here is info on what worked (or didn't work) for me and is, as always, at your own risk.
The person is not accusing me of anything beyond supplying info, which is true. Still, posting the info is still a risk that I take that may encourage others to take their own risk and results may vary.
It does make me wonder about this thread and what its future will be. I enjoy sharing this junk with people and especially the input and helpful info you all share with me.
Okay.
So enjoy, as always, at your own risk.
#3089
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Thread Starter
I go through the same thing sometimes Hab. You have been a wealth of knowledge for a lot of us, you inspire a lot of us, and you do better more informative write ups than most of us. This thread is a go to for tons of us.
Feeling bad makes you a good person, nobody at HAYNES feels bad about there somewhat crappy publications.
Feeling bad makes you a good person, nobody at HAYNES feels bad about there somewhat crappy publications.
Still I really hope this gets straightened out and I do feel bad for the person.
#3090
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iTrader: (1)
- Despite my 99 being a base model the wiring harness has the 6-pin connector with 5 wires going into it, but only three out to the mirror itself. Does this tell me that though my mirrors are non-heated the truck is actually wired for heated mirrors?
I....don't know. It seems a reasonable assumption. Do you get power when you hit the defrost button? That would prolly be the easiest way to tell as the green and white/black wire (or whatever colors you have for those two unused wires) should be for the heating element.
- Can you use "late" style guts (00-02) in an "early" mirror housing (96-99)?
Because I have only a 96 and the hubby's 99 I'm not sure. IF I remember correctly the late style is shaped a little different and therefore not switchable but I'm not 100% sure and wouldn't know what year they changed. A cardboard template of your mirror- or your actual mirror- would make a quick junkyard comparison simpler....
I....don't know. It seems a reasonable assumption. Do you get power when you hit the defrost button? That would prolly be the easiest way to tell as the green and white/black wire (or whatever colors you have for those two unused wires) should be for the heating element.
- Can you use "late" style guts (00-02) in an "early" mirror housing (96-99)?
Because I have only a 96 and the hubby's 99 I'm not sure. IF I remember correctly the late style is shaped a little different and therefore not switchable but I'm not 100% sure and wouldn't know what year they changed. A cardboard template of your mirror- or your actual mirror- would make a quick junkyard comparison simpler....
#3091
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Thread Starter
which my knight in shining wedding band drilled out the ones that stripped. I did replace them with regular head bolts- hex or allen, I forget!
and be careful to try not to strip the screws that hold the mirror bracket to the case and the one that holds the mirror in place.
It'd be really cool if you managed to get a color match and had a plug n play, but not having to repin, that would be pretty awesome too.
Good luck and let us know how it comes out!
Last edited by habanero; 06-30-2017 at 07:31 PM.
#3092
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An update for the problematic mod. I posted a picture in the person's uh-oh thread showing where I think things went wrong and sure enough, that does appear to be the problem. I did warn about them in my write-up because they are tiny tiny super-tiny copper wires. They're going to attempt a repair which, cross fingers, A) works and B) solves the problem.
All that said, these wires are super tiny. It would not take much for them to break at all. Maybe a hummingbird flew by. Or somebody the next town over sneezed. Maybe Mars aligned with Jupiter. I am going to edit the write-up to reflect this (and if the repair is a success then that too) and warn more heavily abut the gossamer bits that can wreck a person's day.
I still feel a little bad that the plan did not come together but you all did make me a little less cringy. Really wished all had gone swimmingly, of course.
This is the speedo out of an early 3rd gen. There are 4 teensy copper wires soldered to tiny posts.
A trip odo sits over the top of this. It's replaceable- I've replaced mine with great luck- but yeah, stinky tiny wires. After so many years of vibration I'm sure anything could cause them to jump ship and break.
Okay, off to mod the mod write-up!
All that said, these wires are super tiny. It would not take much for them to break at all. Maybe a hummingbird flew by. Or somebody the next town over sneezed. Maybe Mars aligned with Jupiter. I am going to edit the write-up to reflect this (and if the repair is a success then that too) and warn more heavily abut the gossamer bits that can wreck a person's day.
I still feel a little bad that the plan did not come together but you all did make me a little less cringy. Really wished all had gone swimmingly, of course.
This is the speedo out of an early 3rd gen. There are 4 teensy copper wires soldered to tiny posts.
A trip odo sits over the top of this. It's replaceable- I've replaced mine with great luck- but yeah, stinky tiny wires. After so many years of vibration I'm sure anything could cause them to jump ship and break.
Okay, off to mod the mod write-up!
Last edited by habanero; 06-30-2017 at 07:35 PM.
#3093
Registered User
Just like you Hab, keep on digging until the answer is found, great work.
Passed through your part of the world today, headed back to my old stomping grounds for a visit, taking the new ride on its first road trip.
Hope all is well with you and yours
Passed through your part of the world today, headed back to my old stomping grounds for a visit, taking the new ride on its first road trip.
Hope all is well with you and yours
#3094
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Thread Starter
You know me Jason, curioser and curioser.
You must've hit 40....or 70, hopefully neither around rush hour. People can be really autonomous when they get behind the wheel in MO. Would have been cool to cross paths, I'm less than a dozen miles from 40.
All is well here, trying to find a chance between raindrops to do the timing belt job on the 96. Hope the maiden voyage went well for you too.
You must've hit 40....or 70, hopefully neither around rush hour. People can be really autonomous when they get behind the wheel in MO. Would have been cool to cross paths, I'm less than a dozen miles from 40.
All is well here, trying to find a chance between raindrops to do the timing belt job on the 96. Hope the maiden voyage went well for you too.
#3095
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I normally come across 40, but I chose to run 70 this time only because it was the middle of the afternoon and I hadn't been across the "New" bridge since it was built.
#3096
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Nice way to bypass the middle of St. Louis, specially as it gets closer to 4pm.
Started tearing stuff out for the timing belt job. Not much done today, got started too late.
Started tearing stuff out for the timing belt job. Not much done today, got started too late.
#3097
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96 4Runner 289,500 miles
Timing belt, water pump, thermostat......and apparently exhaust leak?
For anyone who cares to know I'm using the good old faithful 4x4 wire write-up though this being the 3rd time I could almost do it in my sleep. Okay, maybe not.
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/timing_belt/
I have the timing belt tensioner tool, that eliminates a bunch of steps. It's a Schley SCH97300. Very useful if you're not replacing the hydraulic tensioner.
Between grocery shopping, food making, storms, kid stuff and what nots I got it torn down. Geez, do I hate that dumb 217ft lb crank bolt. Got it, though. It got dark outside and I had to adult (do responsibility stuff) so that's it for tonight.
Next up: TDC and more!
While I was pulling my skid (remind me to get a new bolt to replace the one with the mangled head) I noticed what looks to be a large exhaust leak. Once I get the current project done I'll do more investigating. If I had to guess I'd say seriously failed exhaust gasket after the cat....we'll see.
Oh, also need to remember to do gear fluids since the skids are off. diff, trans, tranny.
Last edited by habanero; 06-30-2017 at 07:37 PM.
#3098
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You are definitely well versed in doing a 3.4 timing belt, I'm still I did mine correctly, it does run so there's that lol.
Last edited by jason in tn; 03-30-2017 at 07:06 PM.
#3099
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Lol, Jason, must've done something right, then.