Post your GAS MILEAGE!!
Jan 25, 2012 | 08:17 AM
#1122
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94 3vze XCab 31.5" tires (265/75R16) 4.30 Automatic Trans, rebuilt 1000miles ago. I only get 10mpg (11.3mpg accounting for tire diameter).
Plugs and wires are new, injectors were not cleaned.
Is there anything that I can do?
Plugs and wires are new, injectors were not cleaned.
Is there anything that I can do?
Jan 25, 2012 | 09:50 AM
#1123
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From: Monkton, MD
When, if ever, was your O2 sensor changed last? I'd start there first.
Jan 30, 2012 | 10:41 PM
#1126
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1994 2WD 22re holley 2 barrel aftermarket head milled .050
webcam "street" cam 10:1 comp lc header deleted cat
2.5" stainless pipe to stainless magnaflow muffler
commute 78 miles each way to work 65-70 15 mpg 75-85 10 mpg
city 12mpg 125.00 week in fuel.............but i wouldnt trade it for anything
have a new head being ported just bought lc 48mm intake valves 41mm exhaust
webcam .510 lift cam who needs mpg when you drive a bad ass yota!!!
webcam "street" cam 10:1 comp lc header deleted cat
2.5" stainless pipe to stainless magnaflow muffler
commute 78 miles each way to work 65-70 15 mpg 75-85 10 mpg
city 12mpg 125.00 week in fuel.............but i wouldnt trade it for anything
have a new head being ported just bought lc 48mm intake valves 41mm exhaust
webcam .510 lift cam who needs mpg when you drive a bad ass yota!!!
Jan 31, 2012 | 06:23 AM
#1127
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From: Currently Virginia Beach, Va. Hopefully back to Wa. within the year...
I read your stats, then looked at your display photo and thought, HOLY CRAP those are NOT 33's, then it processed in my head what I was looking at........
Jan 31, 2012 | 06:34 AM
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Dude, no offence meant, but the metric system isn't the work of "socialists". Oddly enough, it's a system based on certain logical, scientific standards. Such as 100 centimeters to one meter. There are 1000 meters to a kilometer. Zero celcius is freezing, 100 celcius is boiling.
Not quite as quaint as the 12 inches equals one foot deal, and three of them to a yard. Then there's 5280 feet to a mile. Or freezing at 32 farenheit and 212 degrees for boiling.
Nice system.
And by the way, I get roughly 12.5 liters per 100 kms. Which would be approximately 22.6 miles per Imperial gallon, or 18.82 miles per US gallon.
As you can see in my sig line, I'm running a 3.4 liter engine with 265/85R15...er, 33"x10.5"x15" tires.
My calculations also show that 8 out of 24 posts, as of this writing, are by Canadians, giving you 33.3% (or 1/3) of the posts from Canada, not the 90% you claim. Don't forget the 1 guy from Belize, which is not part of the US.
Not quite as quaint as the 12 inches equals one foot deal, and three of them to a yard. Then there's 5280 feet to a mile. Or freezing at 32 farenheit and 212 degrees for boiling.
Nice system.
And by the way, I get roughly 12.5 liters per 100 kms. Which would be approximately 22.6 miles per Imperial gallon, or 18.82 miles per US gallon.
As you can see in my sig line, I'm running a 3.4 liter engine with 265/85R15...er, 33"x10.5"x15" tires.
My calculations also show that 8 out of 24 posts, as of this writing, are by Canadians, giving you 33.3% (or 1/3) of the posts from Canada, not the 90% you claim. Don't forget the 1 guy from Belize, which is not part of the US.
Hahaha!!!! Well said.
Jan 31, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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From: WEST BY GOD VIRGINIA
Well except the hho generator but was worth it lol. Took me a month to get it right and 45 cash to build..Goin put 1 on the wifes exterra this weekend..got 1 on the daughters cavalier and she gets around 59 mpg!!!
Feb 1, 2012 | 02:41 AM
#1132
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From: Monkton, MD
Feb 1, 2012 | 04:17 AM
#1133
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google it HHO generator you can build 1 or buy bad thing is it messes with ur o2 sensor and map so you got to work around them.I will be selling them in bout 2 months but if ne1 wants make 1 and neeed help you can ask me Qs.Basicly its LYE AND WATER
Feb 1, 2012 | 06:18 AM
#1134
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I've heard many times that HHO is a scam. Even if it wasn't, there is no way you could get an increase of 200% in fuel economy. I wanna see some pics or some kind of proof. Otherwise, you're trolling
Feb 1, 2012 | 06:56 AM
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"Energy in a system may be transformed so that it resides in a different state. Energy in many states may be used to do many varieties of physical work. Energy may be used in natural processes or machines, or else to provide some service to society (such as heat, light, or motion). For example, an internal combustion engine converts the potential chemical energy in gasoline and oxygen into heat, which is then transformed into the propulsive energy (kinetic energy that moves a vehicle). A solar cell converts solar radiation into electrical energy that can then be used to light a bulb or power a computer.
The generic name for a device which converts energy from one form to another is a transducer.
In general, most types of energy, save for thermal energy, may be converted to any other kind of energy, with a theoretical efficiency of 100%. Such efficiencies might occur in practice, such as when chemical potential energy is completely converted into kinetic energies, and vice versa, only in isolated systems." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_transformation
so what you are saying is that you have 7-10hp to turn your v-belt, which runs an alternator (which would be the first transducer) that converts kinetic energy into electricity, which charges your HHO generator (the second transducer) going from electricity to stored kinetic energy of a combustible gas and then burned in your internal combustion engine. now its math time. ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are pulling 10hp to run your alternator. then through the first transducer (ill give you a 100% energy transfer [no loss at all] which never ever ever happens) then into another transducer (also 100% transfer in this case too) into a combustible gas that, when burned in an internal combustion engine (ICE), has been revered to the one of the most inefficient powerplants. To loosely quote Corky Bell's Maximum Boost, of all possible energy of combustive gasses in a ICE one third of energy turn the crankshaft via pistons and rods, one third is heat loss out the exhaust, and one third is heat loss through the cooling system.
So your 10hp you started with is down to 3.333333HP actually helping efficiency.
So that being said, use the heat loss out of your exhaust and put a turbo on it! it will be more efficient as well as more power (power is a characteristic of efficiency.)
I'll get off my soapbox now.
Last edited by truckman1966; Feb 1, 2012 at 06:58 AM.
Feb 1, 2012 | 07:38 AM
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Feb 1, 2012 | 08:15 AM
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From: Currently Virginia Beach, Va. Hopefully back to Wa. within the year...
Doesn't a cavalier get like 500 miles to the ounce anyway?
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Oh, I get it, this is a sales pitch, '...I'll be selling them in two months. . . .' because I would TOTALLY buy something from someone who took a month to build something the first time, made one other one and is now going to try to punch the item out on a commercial sales level.
Just sayin. . . . pics will make the difference here I think...
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Oh, I get it, this is a sales pitch, '...I'll be selling them in two months. . . .' because I would TOTALLY buy something from someone who took a month to build something the first time, made one other one and is now going to try to punch the item out on a commercial sales level.
Just sayin. . . . pics will make the difference here I think...
Last edited by photoguy2354; Feb 1, 2012 at 08:21 AM.
Feb 1, 2012 | 09:34 AM
#1138
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Someone made a grumpy 
My vote for the fate of cncrestoration:
On a side note, I think someone should start a thread on this is we want to debate so we aren't jacking this one
Exactly. I tried it and then got $100 deep and went, "wait, what am i doing?" because...
"Energy in a system may be transformed so that it resides in a different state. Energy in many states may be used to do many varieties of physical work. Energy may be used in natural processes or machines, or else to provide some service to society (such as heat, light, or motion). For example, an internal combustion engine converts the potential chemical energy in gasoline and oxygen into heat, which is then transformed into the propulsive energy (kinetic energy that moves a vehicle). A solar cell converts solar radiation into electrical energy that can then be used to light a bulb or power a computer.
The generic name for a device which converts energy from one form to another is a transducer.
In general, most types of energy, save for thermal energy, may be converted to any other kind of energy, with a theoretical efficiency of 100%. Such efficiencies might occur in practice, such as when chemical potential energy is completely converted into kinetic energies, and vice versa, only in isolated systems." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_transformation
so what you are saying is that you have 7-10hp to turn your v-belt, which runs an alternator (which would be the first transducer) that converts kinetic energy into electricity, which charges your HHO generator (the second transducer) going from electricity to stored kinetic energy of a combustible gas and then burned in your internal combustion engine. now its math time. ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are pulling 10hp to run your alternator. then through the first transducer (ill give you a 100% energy transfer [no loss at all] which never ever ever happens) then into another transducer (also 100% transfer in this case too) into a combustible gas that, when burned in an internal combustion engine (ICE), has been revered to the one of the most inefficient powerplants. To loosely quote Corky Bell's Maximum Boost, of all possible energy of combustive gasses in a ICE one third of energy turn the crankshaft via pistons and rods, one third is heat loss out the exhaust, and one third is heat loss through the cooling system.
So your 10hp you started with is down to 3.333333HP actually helping efficiency.
So that being said, use the heat loss out of your exhaust and put a turbo on it! it will be more efficient as well as more power (power is a characteristic of efficiency.)
I'll get off my soapbox now.
"Energy in a system may be transformed so that it resides in a different state. Energy in many states may be used to do many varieties of physical work. Energy may be used in natural processes or machines, or else to provide some service to society (such as heat, light, or motion). For example, an internal combustion engine converts the potential chemical energy in gasoline and oxygen into heat, which is then transformed into the propulsive energy (kinetic energy that moves a vehicle). A solar cell converts solar radiation into electrical energy that can then be used to light a bulb or power a computer.
The generic name for a device which converts energy from one form to another is a transducer.
In general, most types of energy, save for thermal energy, may be converted to any other kind of energy, with a theoretical efficiency of 100%. Such efficiencies might occur in practice, such as when chemical potential energy is completely converted into kinetic energies, and vice versa, only in isolated systems." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_transformation
so what you are saying is that you have 7-10hp to turn your v-belt, which runs an alternator (which would be the first transducer) that converts kinetic energy into electricity, which charges your HHO generator (the second transducer) going from electricity to stored kinetic energy of a combustible gas and then burned in your internal combustion engine. now its math time. ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are pulling 10hp to run your alternator. then through the first transducer (ill give you a 100% energy transfer [no loss at all] which never ever ever happens) then into another transducer (also 100% transfer in this case too) into a combustible gas that, when burned in an internal combustion engine (ICE), has been revered to the one of the most inefficient powerplants. To loosely quote Corky Bell's Maximum Boost, of all possible energy of combustive gasses in a ICE one third of energy turn the crankshaft via pistons and rods, one third is heat loss out the exhaust, and one third is heat loss through the cooling system.
So your 10hp you started with is down to 3.333333HP actually helping efficiency.
So that being said, use the heat loss out of your exhaust and put a turbo on it! it will be more efficient as well as more power (power is a characteristic of efficiency.)
I'll get off my soapbox now.
My vote for the fate of cncrestoration:
On a side note, I think someone should start a thread on this is we want to debate so we aren't jacking this one
Last edited by 93Xtra-Cab; Feb 1, 2012 at 09:38 AM.
Feb 1, 2012 | 10:27 AM
#1139
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From: Colorado
4runner:
21 mpg highway
17 mpg city
35" mtr's, 3" lift, 7mge
2wd pickup:
max: 34 mpg at 65mph (i was drafting a little)
av: 21 mpg city and 27 highway
stock 22r, undersized tires
21 mpg highway
17 mpg city
35" mtr's, 3" lift, 7mge
2wd pickup:
max: 34 mpg at 65mph (i was drafting a little)
av: 21 mpg city and 27 highway
stock 22r, undersized tires
Last edited by liveoffroad; Feb 9, 2012 at 07:19 AM.
