15 thous is a lot, did you use a head shim? if not your probably gonna need a cam gear. with the 10 off my block I can feel the loss in cam timing.

 

That 84/85 would be sweet. How is the other 85' project going?

 

I did not use a shim. I will look into a cam gear. Itll be a minute before I get one though, this kinda set me back/ Dang one day a week job hahahhahahahaha. Do you have a recommedation for a gear?

Yeah it would I really want put forth an effort to buyin it. The 85 is a slow project since its dads but its runnin down the road.

 

Hey Zach, .....yeah, that's the first thing I thought, "15thou?" I'm guessing, but I believe he's speaking of the "Adjustable CAM gear"(think he has one, actually).... Also guessing when I say he went LCE, .....and that he noticed Putney's(22reperformance.com) later..... But they both have one.

If you get it buttoned up with no leaks, I'd THINK it would be best to not remove the head and compromise that HG by going for a 'shim'....... and instead, grab one of those gears. I think Putney's is 100$?

All that said, congratz, Zach! I'm sure you're excited. .....let us know asap how it's runnin!

 

$90 from lce:

http://www.toyotacatalog.net/M1WebGe...spx?Class=1321

 

Thanks Chef. The head has to come back off anyway. I just ran two oil changes through it aaaaannnndddd got my self two beatiful gallons of that wonderful milkshake.
I dont know if it was left over water in the pan and block but that whole frigging thing is comin out and Im puttin in something I know.

 

FIRST THING, I'M REALLY SORRY MAN! Dagnabbit!

If you don't mind a half day work, then TRY with a felpro-258FPT HG, first....after going through the steps I could give ya,.....then you could TRY it. Let me know....(sorry if I missed that....now I'm thinking you already said, "Always Use Felpro"... clear me up on that one?)

Remember, I supervised, then helped resurface my head(2 Thousandths), then blew a NIPPON HG right off the bat! Tore it down, slapped in the 258FPT in there... voila, it's been fine for over 2K since! Just thinking out loud for ya... I know it's tight right now, etc., so if you wanna try re-doing it, let me know, k?

 

good luck with all your work you have Z. you are a persistent fellow i know you will succeed. You might check into doing a title search on that runner if it just sits there. Maybe no one claims it and the owner is "gone" ya know.

 

Good Luck Zach!!!! im pullin for ya! btw that 84/85 is sweeet!

 

Definitly. I am really gonna look into it. It should be pretty easy. I know the locals in the appt that its parked behind want it gone bad.

I got my driver side quick hinges done. I figure to do at least one thing to the truck a day to at least get it closer to what I want when its finally done.








I had to modify the pins a little to slide past the hinge bolt

 

OOOH, that's sweet! Nice work! I kept looking not knowing the half door was coming, lol. Surprisededed me! lol.

 

I used a Fel Pro gasket this time around. The part number on the package is 26185 PT. Im really not sure what it could be. If you wanna throw in some $.02 I would greatly appreciate it.

 

Well, that just might be the RIGHT number of the HG, ...sorry, lol. Hmmmm, strange, but not that uncommon, Z.

First, are you going to try to tear it down, slap it all back together with another try? Or are you going with a new head?(Couldn't figure out what that last post of yours was saying, either way. ??? ) Just a lil concerned since the head was milled(Right?) and a couple other things... But it just makes me wonder on the block deck, right off the bat>>

First, I really don't see the tiny bit you might have had still in the oil pan and oil galleys causing a total milk shake. Sure, it could be a lil foamy, but you'd change that after 20 minutes, anyhow, had it not blown, right?

If you're tearing it down, it could just be a matter of the block wasn't quite clean enough. Obviously the head was milled, and I'm assuming you cleaned it SUPER WELL with warm mildly soapy water and scouring pads and then really well with some alcohol? Even residue can cause a 'breach'.

What did the block look like? Did you scrape it ALL away from there, really well, cleaning up with some scotch brite, then some alcohol on that end too?? No gouging on the deck at all, especially near the jackets, toward the holes, inbetween the holes, etc., right?

Did you chase the threads really well and then go to 62-65# torque, starting from the center out?

Not trying to assume anything, especially that you didn't take extra care to get it as spotless and residue free as possible....not suggesting anything, on any of it, Zach, ....just gotta ask, ya know?

Was the HG perfectly flat with no creases in it, etc.? I had to go to 2 different stores to finally get one straight as an arrow, cuz the other store, autozone, had one just a BIT too mishandled for my taking any chances, especially after what I'd been through, ..AGAIN! lol.

 

The head is should be fine. I dont think there would be a reason to go for new. The meachine shop always does a good job for us. I cleaned the surface of the head with acetone and a shop rag. As for the block deck, I cleaned it with a scotch brite disk on a die grinder then with the acetone. I scraped the RTV from the timing cover/deck with a razor blade. I cleaned the bolt holes with a 1/2 inch steel brush on a drill. There were no nics anywhere that I could see. When I torqued it down I went in 4 steps from 15 ft lbs to 60 ft lbs. I usually go about 60, the Haynes says 58. I went in the pattern in the book, center out. The HG looked good. When I got it it had a slight curve thru the length of it but I laid it agaist the curve of a flat surface with a flat box on top for about a week to flatten it our. When I put it on lastnight it was as flat as Kansas.

 

You've not had any cooling problems before this? I.e.; Running half way on the gauge, etc.?

When I did the initial warm up after tearing it down that last time, replacing with the Felpro... If you remember, I questioned the thermostat. It might not have had anything to do with it, but who knows? I put in another I had(always have a spare for trips) and this time the stat opened and the upper hose didn't get hard and ........well, it worked.

60# SHOULD do it, but I have been doing it, twice now, for my truck and another buddy's, at 64# on my 1/2" drive Torque dude, lol. Can't say THAT had anything to do with it either. The Nippon that leaked on the fresh build within 20 seconds?????? Went to 62#(which should ALSO "DO IT" lol)

When you reamed out the threads with that tool, did you clean them out REALLY well and pull ANY oil/water that was remaining, out? I'm sure you did, just thought I'd ask. lol. I remember test bolting them when I did my cam swap w/out pulling the head, and we got a lil dribble, cuz one of the holes wasn't DRY, so it pushed up and right out the threads on the bottom end of the rocker tower...LUCKILY that time it didn't also dribble out the side of the head, lol.(either way, it still got torn down AGAIN, ......twice! lol... OH, and another block got throw in the mix, too! lol)

Wow, I'm really wondering if you're not just the "ONE IN A HUNDRED" freak happenstance that wound you up, well, 'springin a leak'..... !

 

It overheated once just before I quit driving it. It hit 1/2 guage, it usually rides at 1/4 gauge. It has a new t stat in it. I did pull some oil and thick grease out of the holes but I did run a rag with a screw driver down them to dry em out a lil more. Im not sure what happened but I called the machine shop inquiring some prices on doing a block for me. That would include crank and rods but assembly, I can do that. Its $10 per hole to hone, $95 for a crank grind or $35 to have it polished if thats all it needs, and $10 per rod. I might go that way and just start with something else over this junkyard motor.

 

I ordered a new timing cover today. After doin some research, I found that its hard to see cracks in aluminum. I know it was gouged pretty well but it didnt look bad. Might as well replace it, kill a variable at least.

 

Pretty 'reasonable' investment.... Although, the Factory Cover's are really not common to be bad, UNLESS the chain was slappin! lol. Still, 54$? Does make ya feel better, .... I did the same, especially after what I'd been through, lol.

Best wishes, man!

 

Definitly. There are some definite grooves from chain slap. I couldnt find any cracks in it but I have been told that more often than not you wont see them with out dye.

 

Ive never had anything brand new for the truck before!!