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what kind of damage am i looking at if i run 37s with stock ifs 410s with the 22re?

Old Oct 10, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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With 37's and 4:10's forget driving it in high range...


And the funny thing about gears is, they work the same if you go higher or lower... That is to say, if your high range is higher your low range will be higher.

So say goodbye to any low and slow you have now.

And checkit! It's a Pirate thread...

37" MTR's NO LIFT! Will I build it?


Wait, that's not the one... Let me see if I can find it.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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I have 37's and 4:10's but I'm sfa so I don't have to worry about cv axles and hat not I can pull a 7% grade at around 50mph I do it weekly highway I do about 70 on flat but wind effects me alot I have no clutch problems. And I stop fine but I will go to 5.29's soon just for the added power
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f120...ptions-201480/

that thread says you have installed 4.88 gears???
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by VANCE164
I have 37's and 4:10's but I'm sfa so I don't have to worry about cv axles and hat not I can pull a 7% grade at around 50mph I do it weekly highway I do about 70 on flat but wind effects me alot I have no clutch problems. And I stop fine but I will go to 5.29's soon just for the added power
Why not 5:71's?

http://gearinstalls.com/410suck.htm
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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^good posting.

guess i'll have to do the SupraLux swap to run some 5.71's lmao
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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I just took my Runner from 35x12.50's that it had on when I bought it down to a new set of 33x12.50's. Its made such a huge difference I cant even tell you. I would stay a bit smaller, just my opinion...
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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i think it was on this forum or maybe it was marlincrawler this guy is runnin 37s on no lift ifs for sure. ill try and find him.

...yep here it is i didnt look hard enough for any more threads so here ya go

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...runner-213680/
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Yessir IFS!
I got too excited. Got my 37s before I had all my SAS stuff together, so I said screw it
Cranked torsion bars, BJ spacers, cut fenders and they fit.
SAS is in progress right now, I'll throw some pix up later.
Cranking the torsion bars lifts ~2", BJ spacers ~1.5". So that's ~3.5" of lift in the front and we'll assume the rear too. ATLEAST plus the cut fenders for more clearance. Which was immediately apparent when first looked at it.

37's no lift, no body work? Yeah right! I don't think so...
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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the guy that everyone is referring to has a "gold color" 4runner, and is running 37" MTR's (old style, not kevlars) and he is actually Solid Front Axle (1984 or 1985 4runner)

all he did was basically cut the hell out of his fenders.


9" of lift is achievable...there used to be some 6" bracket Lifts around...so 6" bracket lift..plus 3" body lift.....

or he could have a 4" bracket lift, 3" body lift, 1.5" bj spacers and a small crank on the torsions and a longer set of shackles in the rear.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tried4x2signN
I've heard of lots of problems of 5.71's breaking and would really be too much for me in 4lo with 4.10s I crawl fine it's super slow. Basically that's just too much for me and I hate breaking things
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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the whole point of that article is 5.71's being STRONGER (or JUST AS STRONG) as the stock 4.10's.


could have the 5.71's chryo'd? then you could have better highway manners, and stronger gears, plus an even lower low.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Just read the link in th hospital on my iPhone sorry but anyways I know a guy ruiing a 22r with 5.71's he says he loves the torque but he breaks them quite a bit and said he would reccomend 5.29's and he rubs 38's. So Im just gunna trust his expeirences
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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that could definitely be an Install issue though. him breaking them i mean.

any gear set will break if they're not properly installed and broken in.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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Also considering 4.88's are the actual proper gearing for a 22re on 35's if you do the mathematical equation then 5.29's would be proper for 37's or close anyhow sorry for threadjackin OP
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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that's true Vance!

but most people are looking for the extra torque so they go a little "overboard" if you will.

whenever i do my motor swap in a year or two, i'll probably run 4.88's and 35's..or 5.29's and 36's or 37's.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
that could definitely be an Install issue though. him breaking them i mean.

any gear set will break if they're not properly installed and broken in.
he has them professionaly installed it's just that they create too much torque don't get me wrong he loves them just he knows they will break and it's not a strength issue in my eyes just something bound to happen I mean I'm sure a 4.10 or 5.29 ring gear would have the same amount of trouble holding up to the torque created by the 5.71 Sorry not trying to argue just stating my opinnion
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VANCE164
I've heard of lots of problems of 5.71's breaking
In 8" 4cly diffs, V6 diffs or 7.5" IFS fronts?

This is how rumors get started...

And yeah, compound reduction is compound reduction... You can never really eliminate a weak link.

Only question is, where do you want it?

And Camo, http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/p...26-PINION.html

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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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8" diffs im guessing 4cylinders since its an 82 but the difference between a v6- and 4cylinder diff are minuscuale (sp) and almost not enough to make a substantual difference in the ring gear.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VANCE164
I have 37's and 4:10's but I'm sfa so I don't have to worry about cv axles and hat not I can pull a 7% grade at around 50mph I do it weekly highway I do about 70 on flat but wind effects me alot I have no clutch problems. And I stop fine but I will go to 5.29's soon just for the added power
Auto or manual? If manual, what gear are you in while you're doing this?
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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manual Freeway I use 4th gear around 2500-2800 rpm and the grade is 3rd or 4th depending at about 3k rpms
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MudHippy
Cranking the torsion bars lifts ~2", BJ spacers ~1.5". So that's ~3.5" of lift in the front and we'll assume the rear too. ATLEAST plus the cut fenders for more clearance. Which was immediately apparent when first looked at it.

37's no lift, no body work? Yeah right! I don't think so...
whatever, thats irrelevant to the question. i was just trying to show a guy with 37s with 4.10s on ifs. i also didnt say no body work.
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