IFS Lockrite install
#1
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
IFS Lockrite install
Anyone have an idea as to the amount of time to install a lockrite in an IFS front? See if I've got this about right:
Pull Hubs
Pop off lower BJs
Pop off Outer Tie rods
Pull out spindle, etc to get off end of cv shaft (do I have to pull off upper bjs as well?)
Undo CV's
Pull CV's
Pull Half Shafts
Remove Front diff cover
Install locker.
Can you get the cover off and locker in without pullin the diff?
While im at it im also goina remove the studs for the cv's and install bolts, anyone know what size they are off hand?
Thanks!
Pull Hubs
Pop off lower BJs
Pop off Outer Tie rods
Pull out spindle, etc to get off end of cv shaft (do I have to pull off upper bjs as well?)
Undo CV's
Pull CV's
Pull Half Shafts
Remove Front diff cover
Install locker.
Can you get the cover off and locker in without pullin the diff?
While im at it im also goina remove the studs for the cv's and install bolts, anyone know what size they are off hand?
Thanks!
#2
The front diff cover has a mount that mounts to the crossbrace. I'm not sure how you would get that off without pulling it all the way out.
Here are some pics I found for you:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DN
Looks like ya gotta take it out, and that explains why shops charge sooooo much to do thge front.
Here are some pics I found for you:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DN
Looks like ya gotta take it out, and that explains why shops charge sooooo much to do thge front.
#3
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
Ive got the procomp front lift, and im thinking there might be enough room to support the diff, pull the mounting bolt out, drop the front crossmember, and squeeze the cover out... but if someone knows if its possible, that would be nice.
#6
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
Is there enough play to ge the cvs off the diff without pullin the bj's?
The goal is to get a locker here tomorrow by 5, install it and have it ready for a competition by friday... gotta work friday too. Competition starts saturday at 8
The goal is to get a locker here tomorrow by 5, install it and have it ready for a competition by friday... gotta work friday too. Competition starts saturday at 8
#7
You don't have to pull the hubs and CV's....see this http://www.gearinstalls.com/ifs.htm
mark where the bearing caps go. Mark the ring gear. The ring gear will probably have to come off but no big deal there.
mark where the bearing caps go. Mark the ring gear. The ring gear will probably have to come off but no big deal there.
Last edited by ZUK; Oct 26, 2005 at 10:06 AM.
Trending Topics
#8
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
ZUK, awesome! I will get this locker in, and off to compete i go! I'll let everyone know how it works out, and what I break!
BTW I remember reading it in a thread somewhere, but left and right cv's are the same, correct?
BTW I remember reading it in a thread somewhere, but left and right cv's are the same, correct?
#9
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
One last thing, do I have to take the ring gear off to get the locker in, or can it squeeze in the window?
On the rears, I've been told that you cant get the cross pin out without removing the ring gear.... anyone know?
On the rears, I've been told that you cant get the cross pin out without removing the ring gear.... anyone know?
#10
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
Sorry Zuk, i just read the rest of your response.... you're on top of it as usual! is the front ring gear a press fit on the carrier? Any tricks or techniques anyone can pass on would be appreciated!
#12
when I removed mine I just unbolted the drive flanges and the 4 bolts on either arm that hold the ball joint to the arm and I was able to pull the hubs and cv's back out of the way. Once the hubs and cv are out of the way then its 3 bolts to the ground.
#13
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
Lock Right is in, sneakin outta work around 3ish... should have it done by midnightish at the latest... Will let ya guys know how it works out... Thanks for the help!
#14
I took out the front diff on my 86 stock 4runner with out taking out the CVs. i is a little work to wiggle them out but not too bad. to swap out stock manual diff to put in auto diff 4.38's it took me only 2 hrs and i am NOT mechanically inclined!
#16
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
All done!!! WOOHOO locked front and rear!
Lessons learned:
Break the CV's from the Diff, remove the front diff bolt, the pass rear bolt, and (w/ IFS lift) remove the two bolts that attach the diff to the bracket on the drivers side.
DO NOT Remove the front crossmember (REALLY BAD IDEA). I removed mine, and in the 6 hours it was apart, the frame moved about 1/4 of an inch.... BFH fixed that, but learn from me, just dont remove it, you can get the diff out without takin it out.
Install the lockright, reinstall the diff (bracket bolts first, then rear pass bolt, then front bolt) attach the cv's and wheel away!
Lessons learned:
Break the CV's from the Diff, remove the front diff bolt, the pass rear bolt, and (w/ IFS lift) remove the two bolts that attach the diff to the bracket on the drivers side.
DO NOT Remove the front crossmember (REALLY BAD IDEA). I removed mine, and in the 6 hours it was apart, the frame moved about 1/4 of an inch.... BFH fixed that, but learn from me, just dont remove it, you can get the diff out without takin it out.
Install the lockright, reinstall the diff (bracket bolts first, then rear pass bolt, then front bolt) attach the cv's and wheel away!
Last edited by colsoncj; Nov 3, 2005 at 04:57 AM.
#19
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
over the weekend it was great! it has its plus side and neg side. Personally, id do it again. heres what happened...
hill climbs on real loose rock: no problem, huge improvment!
mud: no problem, another huge improvement!
obstacle course: made things easier, but did slide me around a couple times, all in all it was still an improvement.
river runs: this is were it got tricky... with the wet rocks, tryin to keep my tires on top of the rocks required a lot of finesse.... the truck continually wanted to slide itself into the biggest hole it could find, and did several times. i hung both diffs a few times on rocks with both wheels in the air, but it wasnt anything the truck couldnt handle, and never got me stuck... i'll post a few pics when i get them
i would do it again in a heartbeat... it takes a little to get used to it, and be prepared to slide into a bigger hole, but i love it, plus you should be aimin for the biggest hole anyway
hill climbs on real loose rock: no problem, huge improvment!
mud: no problem, another huge improvement!
obstacle course: made things easier, but did slide me around a couple times, all in all it was still an improvement.
river runs: this is were it got tricky... with the wet rocks, tryin to keep my tires on top of the rocks required a lot of finesse.... the truck continually wanted to slide itself into the biggest hole it could find, and did several times. i hung both diffs a few times on rocks with both wheels in the air, but it wasnt anything the truck couldnt handle, and never got me stuck... i'll post a few pics when i get them
i would do it again in a heartbeat... it takes a little to get used to it, and be prepared to slide into a bigger hole, but i love it, plus you should be aimin for the biggest hole anyway
#20
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,644
Likes: 2
From: Monett, MO (Springfield)
Oh, also tried to break something or get stuck... couldnt accomplish either over the weekend.
this weekend im redoing to front bearings and ball joints, then it will be off to try again!
this weekend im redoing to front bearings and ball joints, then it will be off to try again!




