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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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WOW, looking good
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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That looks really good. When can you start on mine?
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 08:00 AM
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The commute to Idaho would be a bit far to work on your truck... LOL
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Man that truck looked great to begin with!
Subscribed to this awesome restore.
Props to you bud cause this is the first thread I've seen with blood in it.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 12:33 PM
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I just got paid for coaching baseball this season so I have a little bit of disposable income to blow on my truck here's the list of parts getting ordered tomorrow:

*Sky Manufacturing:
-----Heavy duty tie rod

*Low Range Off Road:
-----Brake rotors for rear disc brake conversion
-----Braided SS brake lines for rear disc brake conversion
-----Front brake hardlines (the short ones - less to worry about bending and flaring)
-----Trail Gear SS Rock Ripper Headers (Non-Smog)

*Advance Auto Parts
-----Front brake calipers
-----Rear brake calipers ('82ish Monte Carlo calipers for rear disc brake conversion)
-----Front brake pads
-----Rear brake pads

*eBay
-----Bilstein 5125 #24-185684 front shocks
-----Bilstein 5125 #33-186542 rear shocks

If you are looking for any of these parts, let me know - I did a lot of research and found all the cheapest sources for all of these parts (I never pay full price for anything!).

Originally, I was going to clean up and use the Pacesetter headers that were on the truck before I broke it down, but earlier this week I started welding together my new 2.25" exhaust with a Turbo Thrush muffler (I'll post pictures later) and decided that I'd rather have nice shiny stainless steel headers under my hood then some cheap black ceramic painted pacesetters. I went with Rock Ripper headers over LCE because 1) they were cheaper, 2) they share the same design and performance from what I understand and 3) the non smog LCE headers do not come with the collector pipe which I want to have to make removal easier in the event that I need to.

After a couple of weeks of bouncing back in forth between the Bilstein 5125 and the Rancho RS9000XL shocks I decided to go with the Bilsteins. Again, they are cheaper - I couldn't justify spending over $500 on shocks for a slightly better ride quality on the road. I did some research and apparently the Bilstein valving has the same ride dampening as the Ranchos do when set on the 3rd softest (1-9) setting. So spending nearly twice as much to get a slightly softer ride wasn't worth it to me.

So all I need to do is install these parts once they come in, bolt up my front OME springs (If the damn things ever come!), plumb the brake and fuel lines, figure out what I want to do for a steering stabilizer and I'll have a completed rolling chassis (I'll figure out the wheels when I'm nearly done the build). Then it's on to the body work!

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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kawazx636
I just got paid for coaching baseball this season so I have a little bit of disposable income to blow on my truck here's the list of parts getting ordered tomorrow:
I dig the way you think.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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a little saddened when I see we're not on the list for anything , but ohh well

looking good bud ..


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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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Patience Corey, don't go hurting your own feelings... LOL apparently you didn't read to the end: "Then it's on to the body work!"


Last time I checked, Toyota Fiberglass doesn't offer a whole lot when it comes to rolling chassis parts. LOL We'll be talking in time, I promise.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 04:54 AM
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I, for one, would appreciate you posting the part numbers you are using for your brake upgrade, as I will be following your lead on my '81 rebuild. I know there are other threads with a jumble of numbers and posts, it all get somewhat confusing at times

Also, is your truck painted with the original color code? Awesome color
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Lons81
I, for one, would appreciate you posting the part numbers you are using for your brake upgrade, as I will be following your lead on my '81 rebuild. I know there are other threads with a jumble of numbers and posts, it all get somewhat confusing at times

Also, is your truck painted with the original color code? Awesome color
The paint isn't the original paint code. It was originally all white, but I hate that blue color. It's actually a metallic blue that the PO sprayed on super uneven and never clear coated so it really looks like crap when you're close enough. I'm going to go with a metallic grey like my wife's Camry that you can occasionally see in the background of some of the pictures on here.

You need part numbers, I've got part numbers! Here they are:

*Low Range Off Road:
-----GM Brake rotors for rear disc brake conversion (TB-DBR79-85) $90
-----Braided SS brake lines for rear disc brake conversion (TB-DBL) $90
-----GM Disk Brake Conversion Bracket (TB-DBB) $80

*Advance Auto Parts
-----Rear brake calipers-1982 Monte Carlo (SLC160 & SLC161) $13.99 +$10.00 core each
-----Rear ceramic brake pads-1982 Monte Carlo (CNAD 154) $29.99

Subtotal: $337.97 plus $48.30 from Low Range Off Road (Advanced Auto ships for free or in-store pickup) for a grand total of $386.27.

You can also you Cadillac Eldorado calipers (Not sure which year) if you want to retain your e-brake, but they are marginally more expensive. I'm planning on using a line lock to hold me over until I get a t-case brake.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 10:34 AM
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I added a parts list in the first post of this thread for those who may be looking for some parts. I have listed pretty much each part that I have purchased and where it was purchased from. I have receipts from everything so if you are wondering how much something was, just ask. I can almost guarantee you that the source I have listed is the cheapest for that particular part (unless a lower quality part was cheaper - then I went with better quality/higher cost). I'll continue to update it as I go.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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So I ordered about $1,000 worth of parts today. The 1982 Monte Carlo Brake Calipers and pads for my rear disc conversion were available at my local Advance Auto so I slid by to pickup them up today. I don't have the rotors yet so I decided to mock up the calipers without to make sure I don't have any fitment issues.

You can see where the "Nub" on the calipers interfere with the conversion bracket:

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So a little grinding and off with the nub! (Left with nub, right without nub):

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Then a quick bolt on:

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As you can see, there is very little clearance between the caliper and the wheel. There's probably less than 1/4" clearance. Enough, but boy is it close!

Now I play the waiting game for all of these parts to arrive!

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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Ok, so I said that I was going to wait to buy wheels...well...I waited. I was browsing my wheel options today and decided to go with the Ion Style 171 Polished wheels.

Specs:
*Part # 171-58839
*Material: Aluminum Alloy
*Finish: Polished
*15" x 8"
*6 x 5.5" (139.7mm)
*Offset: -27mm
*Backspacing: 3.43"
*Center Bore: 108mm
*Cost: $84.99 ($339.96 for 4)

I ordered them online from here:
http://rimzoneonline.com/wheels/ion-...171-5883p.html

Everywhere I looked they were in the neighborhood of $110-124 each. This was by far the cheapest I could find at $84.99 each, shipped! They also come with free lugs and valve stems. I wanted an aluminum wheel with a simple classic look with a mirror polished finish that would be easy to clean and keep clean. I also wanted something that was a little open so that I could show off my rear disc conversion and be able to get a tire brush in easily. I was also looking at the Mickey Thompson Classic II/III wheels, but they didn't have the backspacing that I needed. Plus the price point on this Rimz One took me to the Ion's. I think they fit what I wanted perfectly!

My current wheels are 15x9 with a 3.5" of backspacing which flirts with the J-arm when the wheel weights are installed. I'm not sure if 3.43" is going to be enough to be clear of the J-arms as much as I would like and with the rear disc brakes I doubt I could use sticker weights to balance them so worst case scenario I may have to get some 1" wheel spacers. I'll probably get them either way since I want a wider stance any way.

I'll let you guys know if I have any issues with this company - they have super cheap prices and hopefully they are legit.

Man, my Big Brown Deliver guy is going to hate me! He's going to have a lot of deliveries over the next couple weeks

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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kawazx636
Patience Corey, don't go hurting your own feelings... LOL apparently you didn't read to the end: "Then it's on to the body work!"


Last time I checked, Toyota Fiberglass doesn't offer a whole lot when it comes to rolling chassis parts. LOL We'll be talking in time, I promise.
just razzin' ya brotha .. gotta get my digs in where I can
your build is awesome



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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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what are you doing for a parking brake?
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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For an e-brake, I will probably do a line lock. But I will only do a line lock if i can route it into the cab easily to a convenient location to make it actually practical. What I was thinking was to run the rear brake line down along the driver side of the tranny tunnel before taking it to the passenger side frame rail. That way I can shoot the lines into the cab so that the line lock sit somewhere on the tunnel wall near what would be a center console.

If that doesn't work out then I suppose I will go with a t-case e-brake.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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One question about the chassis: How many coats of POR 15 did you do?
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 04:16 AM
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I brushed on 2 coats of POR-15, then knocked it down with some 320 grit sandpaper and sprayed a 3rd coat. I then sprayed 2 coats of POR-15 Chassis Coat over that.
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kawazx636
For an e-brake, I will probably do a line lock. But I will only do a line lock if i can route it into the cab easily to a convenient location to make it actually practical. What I was thinking was to run the rear brake line down along the driver side of the tranny tunnel before taking it to the passenger side frame rail. That way I can shoot the lines into the cab so that the line lock sit somewhere on the tunnel wall near what would be a center console.

If that doesn't work out then I suppose I will go with a t-case e-brake.
I was looking at a couple of threads on pirate after giving this a little thought and it looks like they make an electrically actuated line lock
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brake-Line-Lock-Roll-Control-by-Hurst-Shifters-Performance-/321050676461?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item4ac01c8ced&vxp=mtr
i think I may go this route. I have a transfer case mounted ebrake to use but not sure if I will need to clearance my floor or not.
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 07:35 AM
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