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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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Interesting oil filter info

This link had some of the best oil filter info I've seen, its aimed at Taurus SHO engine owners (Yamaha engines made with very tight engine clearances) but the basics are interesting. I learned somethings from it http://www.shoclub.com/lubrication-o...n-oilpart1.htm

I quote from page 2: http://www.shoclub.com/lubrication-oil/lub...on-oilpart2.htm

When excessive pressure exists across the filter medium a bypass valve opens permitting dirty oil to by-pass the filter medium preventing oil starvation at the bearings. Some oil filters have the by pass on top near the inlet (as illustrated), other designs have the by pass on the far end of the element or the bottom.



This design does not meet Ford standards for three reasons. With dirt and metal chips collecting on the far end of the filter if the by pass valve is located down there it will be swept up when the bypass valve immediately above it opens. Oil coming from the engine washes over the dirty side of the filter media when the bottom by pass valve is open. A top bypass oil filter passes unfiltered oil to the engine but a bottom bypass filter washes dirt off the filter add it to the dirt load in the unfiltered oil and hits the bearings with a much greater amount of debris - at least in theory! The last strike against bottom bypass filters is the problem with ice. In theory, the dome end of the oil filter should be the lowest point of the lubrication system and it work as a place to collect excess moisture and water. If water was in the bottom of the filter and froze it could either obstruct or freeze the bypass valve closed. The PureOne by Purolator has a bottom bypass valve, but the Motorcraft, made my Purolator for Ford has a top bypass valve.
I can confirm that the over-sized Napa Gold filters (1516) I've been using for my Toyota have the bypass at the top:

1) anti drain back valve

2) Top bypass valve

3) metal end caps

4) real compression spring









These filters are normally in the $5-$6 range, but twice a year they run a 40% off sale on them and can be bought for about $3. That's when I stock up on them.


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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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I found this quote rather shocking

Depending on the filter it may also be true that we are in full bypass mode anytime the engine is running over 3000 rpm and the secondaries are open - even with a warm motor and clean oil!
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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Contrast the Napa Gold pics above with this Fram:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...4&nt=10&page=1







And this is what can happen with cardboard end caps (and probably a non-working bypass valve): http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php?...ilter-failure/

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And this is why cheap can cost more in the long run: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f123...-engine-89360/


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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Here's an AC Delco PF53 (E-core) from this thread (3200 mile OCI) :

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...02#Post1806202









Looks like it had to make its own "bypass" hole, wonder how starved the bearings were for oil until the "bypass" hole opened up lol.


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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Wow very interesting in deed. I'm going to have to sit and read more on this when I have some time.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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I used to use those Fram tough-grip oil filters in college; what was I thinking?

Good info goat!!
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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I've been using Purolator filters for quite some time now. 5 years or so I guess.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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I use the Carquest Blue's anytime I do an oil change I'm a carquest fan...Their blue's are Wix which are same as Napa Golds...
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Wow, I'm glad I use the NAPA Gold's or Wix filters. That Fram looks awful!
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Embfixer
That Fram looks awful!
Yeah, did you see the hole in it?

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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i use toyota filters they are only $5.

any tear down pics of a yota filter?
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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There is another oil filter thread on here that completely changed me from those fram tough gaurd filter to the purolator pure one filters.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TOYOTA 1

any tear down pics of a yota filter?
I haven't used one of those for a while, I'd like to see one cut open though. You'll have to show us one now
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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i will next time i change my oil, if i can remember lol..

i just changed the oil in my 91, but my taco is do in about 1k.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Found some in this thread. Looks like a great filter, but has a bottom bypass valve. That might not be so bad though the way Toyota filters are mounted almost upside down. IMHO the worst would be a bottom bypass filter with the filter mounted so the bypass was at the lowest point (where dirt would settle). : http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...1764643&page=1









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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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nice find!

still beats a fram though lol..
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TOYOTA 1
nice find!

still beats a fram though lol..
Yeah looks like a very good filter.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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I'll stick with my toyota tundra 4.7 filter

Cost the same as the v6/22re filter but about an inch longer.

Run them on my v6 truck and 4cyl 4runner.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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I'll stick with the factory toyota filters, I don't like the size of the Napa filter.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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ooops i always buy those fram filters.
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