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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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SAS Welding

When i do my SAS, what kind of welder should i use? A rod welder or..?
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Something you are proficient with and that gets good penetration.

110V machine you will need to use flux core wire as MIG wire just doesn't get hot enough

220V machine is my suggestion

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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Welcome to YT.

If you do not know the answer to this question, you are not ready to weld the critical parts of a SAS.

However, all of the critical SAS parts (front hanger, rear shackle holes) can be welded in place before any IFS components are cut off.

So, you can find a certified and capable welder. Drive to his shop. Have the critical SAS components welded on... and then do the actual swap anywhere once you are ready.

You can then practice welding on such items as shock hoops, armor, etc. The stuff that if you make a mistake won't injure anyone or yourself.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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I'd use a 220v stick or wire-feed, just depends on personal preference.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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why not just by a SA 79-85 pickup...instead of doing a SAS...it would prob be cheaper..lol..thats what i did.

if you are asking for advice..then your probably not ready for SAS....you should built up our IFS before going SAS...just a thought..
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Well i already have two IFS 4runners. I bought one for $900 with a perfect drivetrain and one for $300 with a blown engine but a perfect frame and somewhat decent body. But im no newbie when it comes to trucks and cars and mechanical things. Im just not the best welder ever. I can weld, but not like i see on all the SAS threads ive read where the welds are PERFECT.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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"perfect" is a hard word to define when it comes to welding

If a weld looks "perfect" it may not be strong enough, though it may

In my eyes, a perfect weld is a strong weld, not necessarily the best looking

Bottom line is you make the call if you are ready or not.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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my advice...an SAS is extremely hard work...and very costly...dont do it if your just a NEWBIE...it'll be to much for you to handle...(in my opinion) strengthen your IFS before u do an SAS
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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You guys are telling me like I dont already know. Im not like some of the idiots that come on here and think they will be doing an SAS in a day or two. I realize its hard work, you dont have to tell me that. I dont plan on having this truck on the road anytime before September anyways. (im only 15)
Just because I only have 3 posts doesnt mean im an idiot.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
why not just by a SA 79-85 pickup...instead of doing a SAS...it would prob be cheaper..lol..thats what i did.

if you are asking for advice..then your probably not ready for SAS....you should built up our IFS before going SAS...just a thought..
Because the newer rigs have more creature comfort, he has a wider rear axle already for increased track width, he might have a V6 which is not an option in the earlier rigs, most likely less rust if any at all, less abuse, the SAS spring hangars if welded correctly will hold, unlike the older spring hangars which tend to break off since they arent ment for the weight of big tires, overall pimp status, and to find an EFI SA rig you will have to pay $$$ for a nice one and still have to upgrade it. Dont get me wrong a old school toy is sweet, but for a bit more money something he can have something newer that might better fit his needs.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 89runner22r
Just because I only have 3 posts doesn't mean im an idiot.
I don't think anyone was calling you an idiot. Your question implied you are very new at welding, and in turn fabrication.

Since you were asking this in regards to doing an SAS, most were just following that assumption and trying to give some advice.

If you don't want others opinions, your best bet is not to post a question asking for them.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
my advice...an SAS is extremely hard work...and very costly...dont do it if your just a NEWBIE...it'll be to much for you to handle...(in my opinion) strengthen your IFS before u do an SAS

it would cost more to pimp out his ifs then straight axel.
it only cost me about 1,000 and thats including rear lift!
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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it would cost more to pimp out his ifs then straight axel.
Exactly. Id rather not pimp the IFS for mad money then in a few months want to do a SAS. Id rather just do the SAS to begin with.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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If you don't want others opinions, your best bet is not to post a question asking for them.
I did want an opinion. I wanted to know what kind of welder is my best bet for doing a SAS. I didnt want everyone to come on here and tell me im not ready to do an SAS.
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