22ret swap
Jan 19, 2013 | 05:23 AM
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If you want an Innovate find the big, old, obnoxious 2 button game boy LM-1 that looks hideous on your dash. Probably the best one they had. AEM UEGO or a PLX. As stated above, forget twin scroll if you dont have the mani for it. Ebay turbo's are hit and miss man. Its a crap shoot with majority of them. Kinugawa is a good one, I can speak for them myself. Put a TD05-18G 8cm on a red top SR and it rapes hard. Theres been some speculation is many suby and mitsu forums that they are true MHI centers with copy wheels. Now I dont know how true that is and Im not stating it for fact but I can say they are stout and well built
Here you go. Its big, pretty and will make your power while surviving applied exhaust gasses. Its also external wastegate which will let you make a little more power from the smaller 8cm hotside since the external wastegate will evacuate exhaust preturbo straight from the mani and help prevent the turbo from choking. Also a V band turbine outlet so fabbing and clocking a downpipe will be much simpler and it comes with the V band collar and clamp.
20G
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kinugawa-Tur...8a615e&vxp=mtr
18G
These boost a little sooner and make some great power, its what I used on the above mentioned SR, just in T25 exhaust/Silvia compressor housings. Think Garrett GT2871, just not $1200
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kinugawa-Tur...381b0d&vxp=mtr
16G
This will hit the soonest of them all. The 16G has been a very popular turbo with DSM and Suby owners for years boosting many to over 350 all wheel hp and making some very entertaining track terrors with excellent street manners. If spool is a concern this may be the turbo for you.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kinugawa-Tur...94afc6&vxp=mtr
S15 Silvia Spec R T28 (Garrett GT2560R)
If you can settle for around a 300whp, exhaust powered supercharger (lol) this is your turbo. They boost insanely quick and hit like hammers. First SR I swapped I bolted one of these to it with RC 550's and Nistune and that car was the most fun little nightmare I had driven. Boost was near instant and the power was linear across the board. You would need a T25 exhaust mani for this turbo.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nissan-240SX...af4aa8&vxp=mtr
Isis turbo (Very VERY similar to an FP Big 28)
If your budget is a little tight you can consider this. They make fair power, response is satisfactory and the reviews on quality and performance are positive. Read them yourself. You would need a T25 exhaust mani for this turbo
http://www.enjukuracing.com/products...n-SR20DET.html
Here you go. Its big, pretty and will make your power while surviving applied exhaust gasses. Its also external wastegate which will let you make a little more power from the smaller 8cm hotside since the external wastegate will evacuate exhaust preturbo straight from the mani and help prevent the turbo from choking. Also a V band turbine outlet so fabbing and clocking a downpipe will be much simpler and it comes with the V band collar and clamp.
20G
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kinugawa-Tur...8a615e&vxp=mtr
18G
These boost a little sooner and make some great power, its what I used on the above mentioned SR, just in T25 exhaust/Silvia compressor housings. Think Garrett GT2871, just not $1200
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kinugawa-Tur...381b0d&vxp=mtr
16G
This will hit the soonest of them all. The 16G has been a very popular turbo with DSM and Suby owners for years boosting many to over 350 all wheel hp and making some very entertaining track terrors with excellent street manners. If spool is a concern this may be the turbo for you.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kinugawa-Tur...94afc6&vxp=mtr
S15 Silvia Spec R T28 (Garrett GT2560R)
If you can settle for around a 300whp, exhaust powered supercharger (lol) this is your turbo. They boost insanely quick and hit like hammers. First SR I swapped I bolted one of these to it with RC 550's and Nistune and that car was the most fun little nightmare I had driven. Boost was near instant and the power was linear across the board. You would need a T25 exhaust mani for this turbo.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nissan-240SX...af4aa8&vxp=mtr
Isis turbo (Very VERY similar to an FP Big 28)
If your budget is a little tight you can consider this. They make fair power, response is satisfactory and the reviews on quality and performance are positive. Read them yourself. You would need a T25 exhaust mani for this turbo
http://www.enjukuracing.com/products...n-SR20DET.html
For cheap options the ebay turbos are about all there is besides used turbos from factory cars.
The next jump up is a quality unit from PTE or Comp
Jan 19, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Did you not check this link in my second post?
http://www.enjukuracing.com/categori...Turbochargers/
http://www.enjukuracing.com/categori...Turbochargers/
Jan 19, 2013 | 09:51 AM
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Did you not check this link in my second post?
http://www.enjukuracing.com/categori...Turbochargers/
http://www.enjukuracing.com/categori...Turbochargers/
Jan 19, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Of coarse, You cant go wrong with a Precision. I run a billet 6262 and couldnt be happier... other than I hate my plain, dull compressor housing lol. Mine is a .63 ar v-band hotside. I start making boost around 4k but. Low boost (15psi) about 4400, High boost (22psi) about 4700rpm, Scramble boost (26psi with 110+ racegas, s*!t gets stupid!!!) 5k. My engine is considerably different than a 22r but what I lack in displacement (1.8 liter) you can make up a little in more (2.4 liter) which will speed up spool time a little. Depending on your cam, thatll help too
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Jan 21, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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Will that motor turn 7500 reliably? You might want to have it weight matched and dynamically balanced before you start adding another 15-1700 rpms. I rev mine to 9500 but thats with a solid lift top end matched and balanced lower deck with a Jun full weighted crank
Jan 23, 2013 | 09:05 AM
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i weighted out every rod big end at my shop once the rods where arped and made them all the same weight then i did the same to the big end then. yes i have a rod scale!. then i wieghted every piston which already where .5 grams from heavyest to lightest.
Jan 23, 2013 | 09:25 AM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/DVC-30-Devil...25450b&vxp=mtr is this a kit that ur thinking i should run?
Jan 23, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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This is the best stage 1 kit I have seen: http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/...-stage-1a.html
If you want progressive go with coolingmist CMGS autolearn.
If you want progressive go with coolingmist CMGS autolearn.
Jan 23, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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This is the kit I run and the one I recommend : https://www.coolingmist.com/pagedisp...id=CMGSSystemx
I has a failsafe and is progressive. The progressive is nice since you can generally run 2x the nozzle size without bogging and since the effects are directly related to how much you inject that is a lot.
The failsafe is the most important reason to get it though, it is a lot cheaper then a new engine and while not perfect it is a whole lot better then nothing.
I has a failsafe and is progressive. The progressive is nice since you can generally run 2x the nozzle size without bogging and since the effects are directly related to how much you inject that is a lot.
The failsafe is the most important reason to get it though, it is a lot cheaper then a new engine and while not perfect it is a whole lot better then nothing.
Jan 23, 2013 | 10:09 AM
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what u mean 2 times the nozzle ? but what about like i asked would i want dual stage or whatever its called its in the list of thing u can can choose when ordering the kit. why not a devilsown progressive fail safe?
Jan 23, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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You mean the dual pump, dual stage option thing? Nah that is way beyond what you need. A single pump will more then handle your needs, it is good to around ~20-25gph of flow and I doubt you will even need more then 14gph.
A progressive kit will allow you to use a nozzle that is twice as large as what you could use with a stage 1 kit as a rule of thumb. So if you could only use a 7gph nozzle with a stage 1, you could in theory use a 14gph nozzle with a progressive.
It is not exact and every setup is different but as a rough guide this works.
Jan 23, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Oh, yeah they keep adding more and more options. No that is not anything you need either at this point. Can always add it later.
You should be able to manage a 14gph nozzle with a standalone and a single stage kit for a base boost level tuning (say 8-10psi). That should be plenty to get you going. Then after it is running if you decide you need more boost and you have maxed out the 14gph nozzle you can then decide if a larger nozzle or another stage is the best way to go.
You should be able to manage a 14gph nozzle with a standalone and a single stage kit for a base boost level tuning (say 8-10psi). That should be plenty to get you going. Then after it is running if you decide you need more boost and you have maxed out the 14gph nozzle you can then decide if a larger nozzle or another stage is the best way to go.
Jan 23, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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think ill wait longer and just get the big cooling mist kit so that way ill have the best even though it mite be a bit over kill for 300whp or close to it. but at least ill have it. thinking of doing this on my little brothers 87 iroc sence where sawping a ls into it. maybe should go twin turbos and water methanol lol. would be a nice ride with a 6speed trans behind it lol.
