85celicagthatchback

i know this has been talked about many times but i have a few questions that need clearing up. i got a full stock turbo set up off a 86 runner it had a auto trans in it i was wondering if u can use a auto trans truck ecu in a car with a manuel trans? or do i have to find another turbo ecu from a manuel trans truck or runner? also as far as i found u only need to change the cold start injector pinout when doing this swap is this true? im wanting to be use a 5mge afm with the turbo interanl bored swap and 7mgte injectors has anyone that has done a turbo swap ever used those? reason for the injectors is there 440cc over the stock 300cc injectors. hopefully be doing this swap in my 85 celica in two weeks if everything i has works.

85celicagthatchback

does anyone know about any of this ?

wyoming9

iTrader: (1)

Why do you feel you need bigger injectors??

Are you going with a real wild cam and oversize valves.

Are you using the whole 22RTEC engine so your compression is not to high??

A friend just put one in a 85 Celica we used the manual ECU out of a truck.

If your looking for power this is not the way to go. I had plans to rebuild 2 of these engines .i will not put a cent into these for the slight amount of power you gain.

Due to Sandy dropping a tree on one Truck that is now parts.

The Turbo Truck forum would be able to recite this stuff chapter and verse.:jessica::jessica:

85celicagthatchback

bigger injectors cause of more boost then stock no im not swaping the whole enigne just changing head to lower compression back down to 9:1 thats why im only planning on pushing 8-10 pounds. yes i have a very wild cam and alot of port work the resaon for all the extra non stock turbo part is cuz im not planing to make just stock turbo power im planing on 250 to 275 or more if i can get it. what did u and ur friend have to do as far as wire changes ?

85celicagthatchback

and ive already got 150 whp out of it with just bumping up the compression and porting a head and adding a cam the rest of my car is stock other then rods and flywheel. me and my dad own a engine building shop and where looking to test thing to see how mouch power we can get when we do certin mods.

wyoming9

iTrader: (1)

we used the whole engine harness and ECU from the 22rtec engine .

If you don`t have that your going to need the wiring diagrams from what ever year electronics your running and build your own harness .

For me to tell you just what we did would take hours with pin outs and wire colors.

It takes time no doubt the hardest part .

Good Luck

85celicagthatchback

oh so u guys just did a whole swap guess that makes it easyer from what ive seen from a 87 22ret runner pin layout to a 85 celica it was just the cold start injector was different but im on here trying to find out if anyone has ran into anything different

HighLux

Trying to make power with a 22re is kinda a waste of time.
Most of us want a lil more power with reliability.

Running 16's in the quarter in a 22re powered car will get you laughed at.

85celicagthatchback

um ok i didnt post this to get hated on if u dont have info no need to post or run ur lips i have 5 hrs into my head a a stock rebuildt 22re and make 145whp i run 14 in a quater but thanks for ur info ovously u know nothing about a 22res u open up the head that flows a tiny 113cfm stock which is hardly enough air to run a weeder motor and they scream mite not make a lot of hp but makes driving the car u have way much funner when they actully move!

HighLux

I doubt anyone here will buy anything from you.

85celicagthatchback

ok like i said i posted this for info so if ur not trying to help no need to post ur negative stuff thanks

donomite49

celica, you need to talk to TEXAS ACE, he has a fast mr2 rubber burner, and is a big fan of forced induction.

check out his 4runner thread,
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/t...-power-222044/

Logan81Pickup

Check out this page: http://22returbo.net/

It has some good info on getting power out of a RET.

I'm planning on rebuilding and swapping a 22RET into my 1981 pickup myself, but currently it's just at the planning stages.

85celicagthatchback

I have ideas I just need to know if whY I'm gone try will work see as this is my dd I'm going to try to have it done in a weekend.

Texas_Ace

I would try posting on http://www.toyotacelicas.com/forums/ They will have MUCH more info then we do on your car.

Sadly your car is a little older then I am used to dealing with. I mainly deal with the newer models that use the 5s/3s engines. I could go into endless detail on those. Never really cared for or dealt with the 22r but then I like to have 500whp+ in my cars lol.

85celicagthatchback

Ok thanks ace. Well do u think I'm going the right way with the bigger injectors for the bigger.afm and more boost?

85celicagthatchback

And does 8-10 psi sound right for a 9:1 motor?

Logan81Pickup

If you want to make real power out of a 22RET you're going to need a different form of engine management from stock, bigger injectors, more boost (req. an intercooler), oversized valves, port work, better turbo as the stock one is laggy, arp head studs, metal head gasket, turbo cam, oil supply for turbo, turbo radiator/ modify yours, turbo pistons (compression is 7.25:1 on the turbo motors), etc.

If you're just planning on swapping the turbo stuff over to your motor then I would just give up, as it's not going to provide the power gains you're looking for.

Here is another page with lots of good info: http://www.well.com/~mosk/

Texas_Ace

All engines are different and have different paths to more power. If your goal is significantly more power then stock I can say that an engine swap might be the best bet. I know that guys swap motors into those cars on a regular basis. Bet they have 2jz kits that would net you a ton more power and cost only slightly more then trying to get power out of the stock motor.

Also got classic V8 swaps as options as well along with a 3sgte swap.

To be honest I don't pay attention to setups under 250whp at all and under 500whp I just give it a passing glance.

I would get on that other site and see where the weak link of your engine is and what the first bottle neck is. Most turbo engines have some easy power to be had with minor mods and then it gets pretty expensive real quick.

I can tell you that you will need to add some way to tune the ECU if you add larger injectors.

Snowfork

Does anyone know if he ever went to that forum?
I am very active there and an avid supporter of the R series engine. I don't recall seeing him over on the Celica forum.