Post your GAS MILEAGE!!
#641
... Oh come on!!!
So let me see; a solid vertical wall, that directly is smashed into by rearward moving wind, and acting almost like an airbrake, to wind that comes down into the bed, the mileage gets worse, if this airbrake is removed...
Please show me some tests done on this, otherwise, I will go to my grave, refusing to believe this one.
That air vortex effect is created by the wind, smashing into the top of the tailgate, bouncing downward at an angle into and toward the center of the bed, and curling upwards against the rear of the cab. Think on the ' smashing' part..
So let me see; a solid vertical wall, that directly is smashed into by rearward moving wind, and acting almost like an airbrake, to wind that comes down into the bed, the mileage gets worse, if this airbrake is removed...
Please show me some tests done on this, otherwise, I will go to my grave, refusing to believe this one.
That air vortex effect is created by the wind, smashing into the top of the tailgate, bouncing downward at an angle into and toward the center of the bed, and curling upwards against the rear of the cab. Think on the ' smashing' part..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3aqHbD-O9E
there ya go RR, mythbusters for you.
there ya go RR, mythbusters for you.
In this particular case, they picked two same-year/same-model pickups and made one pass with a fixed amount of fuel in each tank. At a minimum they should have swapped vehicles and repeated the test (which they did not).
#642
90 IFS pickup
22re
210,000 miles on motor
5 speed
4.10 gears
33x12.50 @20psi
K&N replacement air filter
2" true dull custom exhust
heavy custom bed
no lift
powertrax lockright locker rear
highway with many hills 55mph 21mpg
town/offroad 10-15mpg
210,000 miles on motor
5 speed
4.10 gears
33x12.50 @20psi
K&N replacement air filter
2" true dull custom exhust
heavy custom bed
no lift
powertrax lockright locker rear
highway with many hills 55mph 21mpg
town/offroad 10-15mpg
Last edited by Chuck Manners; Feb 8, 2010 at 09:58 AM.
#644
wow!!! those tests do kinda blow you away; kinda makes sense with the mesh though; giving the wind actual patterns to pass through would increase aerodynamics... but the tailgate up kinda blows you away, as it being a tad better than the other ways...
#645
88 4runner v6/3zve... 10 mpg in winter, maybe 13 mpg in summer

I have put in all new: dist cap, plug wires, spark plugs, battery, air filter, fuel filter,
The 4runner has headers, 31's, and 4.10 gears, tires at 36 psi.
So help me out guys, I'm jealous of everyone getting 20 mpg lol.

I have put in all new: dist cap, plug wires, spark plugs, battery, air filter, fuel filter,
The 4runner has headers, 31's, and 4.10 gears, tires at 36 psi.
So help me out guys, I'm jealous of everyone getting 20 mpg lol.
#647
if you have allready done the tune up parts, and if it is not your gearing and huge tires, then I would say it is time for a Seafoam treatment for a couple of you dudes... gearing and tire size is the only other thing I can think of, unless you have a vacuum leak somewhere, or plain ol fuel leak somewhere.
Unless the v6 auto's just suck that bad at gas mileage; except there is a dude a few strings above with a v6 auto 2wd, getting some fab gas mileage...
Unless the v6 auto's just suck that bad at gas mileage; except there is a dude a few strings above with a v6 auto 2wd, getting some fab gas mileage...
#648
have the tail gate down is not gonna decrease drag, wind can only bend so much and its not enough to hit the tail gate. should try sitting with your head just below the tail gate in the rear and see if you notice any wind hitting you at the same speed the driver is going
Last edited by ToyoTech559; Feb 9, 2010 at 03:41 PM.
#649
Don't feel bad, my turbo 4 is only hitting 14mpg mixed with 600 miles on the clock. Got 20mpg when I bought it. OTOH, it totally failed emissions at 600 miles, shop which did the motor has it now.
#650
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From: TENN Native Languishing in Virginia
I have a stock 94/v6/5 spd w/32" tires. My fuel economy has SUCKED since we were hit with the blizzards (yes, plural,and another coming today!) and it has been ultra cold (single digits last night). I'm down to 14 mpg from 17 mpg. Having 800 lbs of snow in the bed probably doesn't help, right?!?
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#651
You are correct on the reason why 2wd gets better MPG.
On the 4runners and Tacomas that are 4WD. If they have auto locking hubs. The whole system that runs the 4wd is always spinning. The Transfercase. The drive shafts. The works.
So in retrospect. The engine has to move alot more weight in account of the 4wd and also has to use its power to Spin those parts even though theres not enough power going to it for it to activate. If any of this made sense.. Haha
One major thing is weight. If you have alot of weight in your truck then the engine has to push harder to get the truck moving from a dead stop. Burns alot more gas.
The Engine in a average car used 95% of its power just to move the vehicle. Only 5% of the power is used to actually move you!
So reduce weight. Improve MPG.
So dont build a Sub box that weighs more than 2 people, Then you will get 13MPg like I do with this winter mix gas. So thats my 2 cents worth on the matter
On the 4runners and Tacomas that are 4WD. If they have auto locking hubs. The whole system that runs the 4wd is always spinning. The Transfercase. The drive shafts. The works.
So in retrospect. The engine has to move alot more weight in account of the 4wd and also has to use its power to Spin those parts even though theres not enough power going to it for it to activate. If any of this made sense.. Haha
One major thing is weight. If you have alot of weight in your truck then the engine has to push harder to get the truck moving from a dead stop. Burns alot more gas.
The Engine in a average car used 95% of its power just to move the vehicle. Only 5% of the power is used to actually move you!
So reduce weight. Improve MPG.
So dont build a Sub box that weighs more than 2 people, Then you will get 13MPg like I do with this winter mix gas. So thats my 2 cents worth on the matter
#652
if you have allready done the tune up parts, and if it is not your gearing and huge tires, then I would say it is time for a Seafoam treatment for a couple of you dudes... gearing and tire size is the only other thing I can think of, unless you have a vacuum leak somewhere, or plain ol fuel leak somewhere.
Unless the v6 auto's just suck that bad at gas mileage; except there is a dude a few strings above with a v6 auto 2wd, getting some fab gas mileage...
Unless the v6 auto's just suck that bad at gas mileage; except there is a dude a few strings above with a v6 auto 2wd, getting some fab gas mileage...

And I actually have 2 runners, my 22re auto gets 16-18 mpg so it's really pissing me off that my v6 auto gets 9-10 mpg.
I'll also share a tip, when I first got my 22re it was getting horrible mileage too, turns out the brake calipers were sticking so when I replaced those it went up to 16-18 mpg. So check your calipers too for anyone getting horrible mileage.
#653
just make sure your engine is hot, when you do the treatments. wait at least 15 mins, before you restart, blow all the stuff out with hi up and down revving for about 5 minutes, and do 2 treatments in a row 6 ounces each time, throw the rest of the can in the gas tank.
#658
1992 runner, 3.0 L, 301,000 miles, manual trans, manual hubs. Between 13 and 16 mpg in town, 20-21 on the highway. Just put 31's on, we'll see what that does to it.
Last edited by Tacomolas99; Feb 16, 2010 at 04:58 PM.


