Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

Mass load of parts replaced, still no start

Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:25 AM
  #61  
Fink's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 9,076
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
I haven't been following this - can you outline what you've already replaced?

That behavior sounds kind of like bad plugs from my experience.

Fink
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:31 AM
  #62  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
Originally Posted by Fink
I haven't been following this - can you outline what you've already replaced?

That behavior sounds kind of like bad plugs from my experience.

Fink
Fink:

Fuel pump and filter, plugs, cap, rotor, TPS, and a few cut vacuum lines.

I have checked MAF and the pipes leading away from it, and they have a black residue in them...
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:40 AM
  #63  
Fink's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 9,076
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
Originally Posted by 02/89yota
Fink:

Fuel pump and filter, plugs, cap, rotor, TPS, and a few cut vacuum lines.

I have checked MAF and the pipes leading away from it, and they have a black residue in them...
Clean it up as much as you can (MAF cleaner or brake cleaner will work) just to be sure.

Have you cleaned the TB yet? If not, give that a good cleaning.

How is the exhaust? Any leaks anywhere?

Fink
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:46 AM
  #64  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
Originally Posted by Fink
Clean it up as much as you can (MAF cleaner or brake cleaner will work) just to be sure.

Have you cleaned the TB yet? If not, give that a good cleaning.

How is the exhaust? Any leaks anywhere?

Fink
Exhaust is BRAND new, just got it back from the shop 3 months ago with all new OEM piping and everything... shoulda just got an aftermarket.. ha!

and clean the MAF, pipes and the throttle body?
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:49 AM
  #65  
skypilot's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 6
From: Peekskill, NY
Plug the EGR valve. A slice from an alum can will do it.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:50 AM
  #66  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
wait, are you saying just plug all that crap and eliminate the EGR valve?
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:55 AM
  #67  
Fink's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 9,076
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
Originally Posted by 02/89yota
Exhaust is BRAND new, just got it back from the shop 3 months ago with all new OEM piping and everything... shoulda just got an aftermarket.. ha!

and clean the MAF, pipes and the throttle body?
Definitely clean the throttle body.

By the way, the 22R-E doesn't technically have an MAF, it has an AFM - I just remembered that. I don't have any experience cleaning them, but I would do some searching on here for write-ups on how to clean the 22R-E AFM.

xxxtreme may chime in soon, and he would be one of your best resources for this issue.

Fink

Last edited by Fink; Nov 6, 2011 at 08:56 AM.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 09:06 AM
  #68  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
Originally Posted by Fink
Definitely clean the throttle body.

By the way, the 22R-E doesn't technically have an MAF, it has an AFM - I just remembered that. I don't have any experience cleaning them, but I would do some searching on here for write-ups on how to clean the 22R-E AFM.

xxxtreme may chime in soon, and he would be one of your best resources for this issue.

Fink
thank you, preciate it
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 09:49 AM
  #69  
Fink's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 9,076
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
Wabbit beat me to it, but your threads were merged.

I just now got around to looking for it and saw he already merged them.

Pretty quick for an old man.

Fink
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 11:27 AM
  #70  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
haha, thanks guys! yeah that damn waskilly wabbit
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:14 AM
  #71  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
ok, so after taking the t/b off, the intake piping and the afm and cleaning everything, still the same thing
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:00 AM
  #72  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
would and improperly adjusted TPS cause this stutter?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 04:01 PM
  #73  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
Heres a vid of whats goin on http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...MDA3LjNncA.mp4
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 04:40 PM
  #74  
92dlxman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 278
Likes: 1
From: visalia, ca
I think, since it is dependant on throttle position, it is the tps.

but considering the condition of the truck so far, like grounds not connected and stuff, hell its kind of overwhelming. start there, ohm it out, take the throttle body or upper-intake off to avoid too many curse words lol.

actually that would be best, remove the whole upper intake and pay zero attention to where the vaccum lines are. . . . that way you have to re-route them according to a correct diagram when you reassemble. two birds with one stone, tps, and vac lines. that-is efficiency
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 04:56 PM
  #75  
vital22re's Avatar
totally a bro
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 8,158
Likes: 46
From: kick yer face
with these older ecu's if the tps is out of spec/improper adjustment, then the vehicle won't run right at all. Have you verified the proper firing order? Have you checked for stored trouble codes?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:33 PM
  #76  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
how do I check for stored trouble codes? and yes, firing order is correct
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 09:05 PM
  #77  
4Crawler's Avatar
Contributing Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 10,822
Likes: 34
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Originally Posted by 02/89yota
how do I check for stored trouble codes? and yes, firing order is correct
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...CheckConnector
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2011 | 03:36 PM
  #78  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
I have not timed it... I wouldnt even know where to begin with that, not to mention im so short on cash right now its not even funny
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2011 | 05:43 PM
  #79  
02/89yota's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Washington
ahh thanks! I am gonna try and do that tomorrow, I need to get this beast back on the road
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2011 | 08:01 PM
  #80  
92dlxman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 278
Likes: 1
From: visalia, ca
. . . . . buy a manual before a light. read it. it is better to know exatly what tools to buy and have a reason to buy them. learn the truck according to a manual, then try and make yours the same. I curse my haynes daily but know that whithout it, i would be screwed.

also go out to a bar every once in a while and ask, "who here has a 22re?" and buy him a drink. make friends so you have a reference truck.

not to be a "richard cranium" but im gathering that you dont have much experience with these trucks and need someone that does, live, in person. a mechanic does not count as this person
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:14 PM.