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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Look at Crack Piston while Rebuilding my 3VZE

When I went to the machine shop, the same shop that is doing a complete rebuilding of my motor, this is what they found

I didnt have time to take actual picture, plus it was too dark, but this pictures looks almost exactly the same, however mines is worse

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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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Bet that was guzzling oil
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 01:26 PM
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Time to bore out the block and run bigger pistons.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cheappc
...but this pictures looks almost exactly the same, however mines is worse

You're welcome...
Originally Posted by Co_94_PU
Bet that was guzzling oil
No, it wasn't, actually. But it was losing ≥ 70 PSI of compression on that cylinder. There was a seperate(d) piece plugging that hole up, until I removed the piston from the engine.
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Time to bore out the block and run bigger pistons.
Might not be necessary(I put in new STD size). Not a bad idea though. If feasible...

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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Thanks Mudhippy, I was amazed at how my piston looked exactly as yours... thanks for the picture... but since I went to the machine shop for lunch, I didnt have a lot of time to take pictures of everything..

They took my motor completely apart, I saw the bottom end and top end... they also made me feel "the inside" of the sleeve, it was bad, I could feel a huge bump in it... so what do they do in this situation?
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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If it's as bad as it sounds...boring .040" over might not be enough. And the largest pistons for this engine that are readily available are only 1.0mm/.040" OS(AFAIK).

In that case the cylinders would need sleeved. Since there are no sleeves to be simply replaced(would be afterwards though). But that's a rather complicated/expensive/time-consuming process. Considering it's usually a whole lot easier/cheaper/quicker to find another rebuilt/rebuildable short/long block(or, if $ is limited, just a decent used, and/or rebuildable, cylinder block).

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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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What would cause something like this?
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 05:22 PM
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What would cause something like this?
Several things.... Overheating, cylinder wear causing piston slap, wrist pin bearings, ext...
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Old May 23, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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Just wanted to update everyone, I got my engine completely rebuilt, and I have driven 500 miles and it has worked flawlessly! (knocking on wood)

However, 3 days when they originally gave it to me, it blew a rod (thats what they said), they completely rebuilt it again, and this time I believe gave me a new crankshaft, because the other one was way too machined (thats what I think they said)
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Old May 23, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cheappc
Jit blew a rod (thats what they said), they completely rebuilt it again, and this time I believe gave me a new crankshaft, because the other one was way too machined (thats what I think they said)
what does your paperwork say?
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Old May 24, 2013 | 07:00 AM
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what does your paperwork say?
New Rod, New Bearings, New Pistons, New Rings, New Crankshaft, Gaskets, Upper and Lower End complete overhaul.

12 months 12,000 mile warranty
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 01:54 PM
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My head gasket went back out 3-4-2014...

Im giving up on this truck I totalled it yesterday in a car accident, after I tried to repair the head gasket going out just this monday, as a matter of fact, I was trying it out towing my boat yesterday just to see how it would do on the freeway, never made it, somebody caught in front of me and i couldnt stop and totalled the truck? not really totalled but I could hear the engine clack??

It was trouble free for exactly 10 months, I loved it, thankfully I towed my boat about 30 times during the last 10 months, I took it to Laughlin, Las Vegas, Piru, Elsinore, Castaic.

I went everywhere, so I got my use out of it, not much though, I put $3,400 into it ($1600 for the truck, $1800 for the rebuilt motor).

I didnt want to spend another $1,1000 (that would take me to $4500)... im giving up on it, loved it though, but the cost of the repair (just in body work) probably $2000, plus the head gasket problem... not sure if its cost effective...\
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cheappc
My head gasket went back out 3-4-2014...

Im giving up on this truck I totalled it yesterday in a car accident, after I tried to repair the head gasket going out just this monday, as a matter of fact, I was trying it out towing my boat yesterday just to see how it would do on the freeway, never made it, somebody caught in front of me and i couldnt stop and totalled the truck? not really totalled but I could hear the engine clack??

It was trouble free for exactly 10 months, I loved it, thankfully I towed my boat about 30 times during the last 10 months, I took it to Laughlin, Las Vegas, Piru, Elsinore, Castaic.

I went everywhere, so I got my use out of it, not much though, I put $3,400 into it ($1600 for the truck, $1800 for the rebuilt motor).

I didnt want to spend another $1,1000 (that would take me to $4500)... im giving up on it, loved it though, but the cost of the repair (just in body work) probably $2000, plus the head gasket problem... not sure if its cost effective...\
Sorry to hear that! Hopefully you can get a new truck/SUV with a more reliable motor! I guess yours couldn't take the stress of constant towing.
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