Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

im beating a dead horse

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 13, 2013 | 07:04 PM
  #1  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Red face im beating a dead horse

I posted before about a headlight upgrade about hids and I read I needed a wiring harness.. well after doing a search I found out I can get e-code headlights and run an h4 bulb I found these on amazon
AutoPal Euro Clear H6054 7x6 Inch 200mm Headlights Pair H4 Bulbs Non-Sealed H6014/H6052/H6054 : Amazon.com : Automotive AutoPal Euro Clear H6054 7x6 Inch 200mm Headlights Pair H4 Bulbs Non-Sealed H6014/H6052/H6054 : Amazon.com : Automotive

im wondering are these just plug and go or do I need a harness for these also
Reply
Old May 13, 2013 | 07:44 PM
  #2  
SkybluYota's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From: Southeast side of Houston, Tx
Not to be a jerk, which are abundant on public forums, but on the first line under "Product Features"
-Fits H6014/H6052/H6054 sealed beam socket - Plug and Play=

According to Amazon anyway, looks like plug & play. Id be wary of quality though. Ive seen some crappy amazon/ebay lights
Reply
Old May 13, 2013 | 07:54 PM
  #3  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
oops miss read what lenses should I be looking for
then I heard hella was good
Reply
Old May 14, 2013 | 02:02 AM
  #4  
TNRabbit's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,787
Likes: 36
From: TENN Native Languishing in Virginia
Originally Posted by wolf28
oops miss read what lenses should I be looking for
then I heard hella was good
Are they "hella" good?






Reply
Old May 14, 2013 | 06:09 AM
  #5  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
haha

don't wanna spend the money on the hellas
looking for a cheap housing that will get by and still have good light output
Reply
Old May 14, 2013 | 06:38 PM
  #6  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 12:39 AM
  #7  
Co_94_PU's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 5,433
Likes: 555
From: Colorado
There is a thread that covers all this very well already. you'll have to search it I forgot the title.

In short yes they will plug right in, in most cases, but you won't be getting the full upgrade benifit w/o the wiring upgrade.
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 12:55 AM
  #8  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,125
Likes: 681
Originally Posted by Co_94_PU
There is a thread that covers all this very well already. you'll have to search it I forgot the title.
In short yes they will plug right in, in most cases, but you won't be getting the full upgrade benifit w/o the wiring upgrade.
Correct, bulb upgrade simply masks the problem, you also need to upgrade wiring to minimize voltage drops due to high resistance of thin and long wire.

Search for "H4 conversion". Also "H4 conversion harness" for plug-n play harness. Also go to 4Crawler's website and look for same.

Link on my sig compares voltages drops between stock and upgraded and details how I did mine using only one additional relay and thicker wires.

Last edited by RAD4Runner; May 15, 2013 at 12:59 AM.
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 06:11 AM
  #9  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
well I found some these on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/200mm-H6054-H4-EURO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS-KIT-/330897426583?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0b060897&vxp=mtrI read in some posts that u don't need the harness and that 55/60 watt bulbs would work
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 08:40 AM
  #10  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,125
Likes: 681
Originally Posted by wolf28
well I found some these on ebay
I read in some posts that u don't need the harness and that 55/60 watt bulbs would work
Correct, you do not need the harness, those fixtures are plug- n play. The harness is an upgrade to minimize voltage drop (meaning power loss) in wiring as explained in my post, as well as other posts.
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:20 PM
  #11  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
so how high of a bulb can I run without the harness
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:26 PM
  #12  
85gijunk4x4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 3,120
Likes: 1
From: piney hicks nj
Not to be a jerk here as well, but I rode with a friend the other night who was showing me his best awesome top of the line lights that he had to run all crazy wire harnesses for, and they had a cool blue tint and shoot way out and really wide etc. etc.

My 2 year old foggy sealed beams did almost the same
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:29 PM
  #13  
85gijunk4x4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 3,120
Likes: 1
From: piney hicks nj
To each is own though, do as you please!

my $0.02 is to leave it alone and just get some upgraded sealed beams, as those fancy bulbs seem to get expensive when stuff goes wrong.

But I know nothing about headlights, so I cant really answer your question.
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:34 PM
  #14  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
wat kinda sealed beam would I get would like to do the h4 conversion
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:39 PM
  #15  
85gijunk4x4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 3,120
Likes: 1
From: piney hicks nj
I was going to get something like for my 88 sr5 before I realized that POS I sunk all my time and money into should be on fire in my yard right now, or in a junkyard.

I don't know how they are compared to other lights, because lke I said I don't know anything about lights but they seemed to be an upgrade.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/grm-09-1081/overview/
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:40 PM
  #16  
85gijunk4x4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 3,120
Likes: 1
From: piney hicks nj
I guess you just plug an H4 bulb into it?

EDIT*** I guess that's pretty much what you're asking....if the wiring harness has to be changed to accommodate the H4 bulb

Last edited by 85gijunk4x4; May 15, 2013 at 07:41 PM.
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:43 PM
  #17  
Co_94_PU's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 5,433
Likes: 555
From: Colorado
The stock wiring and wire routing is not even good enough for the stock bulbs, so you are better off upgradeing the harness and going with a "proper" relay system than spending cash on bulbs you won't be getting the maximum from.

You should check out RAD's link on the harness.
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:51 PM
  #18  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
well im getting these http://www.ebay.com/itm/200mm-H6054-H4-EURO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS-KIT-/330897426583?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0b060897&vxp=mtrand a harness but what harness do I need I see 4crawler has like 3-4 different 4h ones
Reply
Old May 16, 2013 | 11:40 AM
  #19  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Reply
Old May 19, 2013 | 07:49 PM
  #20  
wolf28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
any one tried the putco wire harness
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
smilen724
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners (Build-Up Section)
13
Nov 8, 2015 04:11 PM
Chicken12
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners
6
Oct 14, 2015 03:54 PM
mreagen
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
10
Oct 5, 2015 04:27 PM
89YodaRunner
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
3
Sep 30, 2015 02:18 PM
Toys4parts
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners (Build-Up Section)
2
Sep 26, 2015 01:56 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:46 AM.