Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

I need engine help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-31-2008, 03:20 PM
  #81  
Registered User
 
grant526's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento Valley, Ca
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I've mostly only seen mazda cams and timing done at this point. So this question might not be relevant. Bud can the cam gears be installed more than one way? I know the Miata engines have a couple different directions they can be installed. Which baffles me as to why!
Old 07-31-2008, 03:22 PM
  #82  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
wrnchplr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Small town, CO.
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by grant526
I've mostly only seen mazda cams and timing done at this point. So this question might not be relevant. Bud can the cam gears be installed more than one way? I know the Miata engines have a couple different directions they can be installed. Which baffles me as to why!
The cam gears have a slot that goes over a pin. they can be installed backwards but when I pulled them off I marked them.
Old 07-31-2008, 03:25 PM
  #83  
Registered User
 
just a 22re's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: milwaukee, WI baby muddin in the streets!!
Posts: 2,801
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
did you watch the move thingy lol anyways just try to get this one running for a few more days buddy take a brake and let it sit then go back to it and it will be fine!
Old 07-31-2008, 03:39 PM
  #84  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
wrnchplr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Small town, CO.
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by just a 22re
did you watch the move thingy lol anyways just try to get this one running for a few more days buddy take a brake and let it sit then go back to it and it will be fine!

I did watch the video, I just don't understand if the #1 is TDC and the cams are both at the notch how it could be wrong.....I'm a cop not a tech. I only know the 4cyl. and thought how could this be much different?? what a nightmare it has turned into. The battery is dead so I'll let it sit tell tonight and give it one more shot.
Old 07-31-2008, 03:50 PM
  #85  
Registered User
 
76ANTHONY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 462
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
YEP, take a break or it'll kick your azz. now try just flipping the timing 180 and then back and see what happens when you flip it 180, i did this and found out i was 180 off, its easy to be 180 off on the 3.slows
Old 07-31-2008, 03:59 PM
  #86  
Registered User
 
grant526's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento Valley, Ca
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
That's what i expected, but thought I would ask anyway.

Like everyone keeps preaching. Check that your not 180 out. Your plugs are on the right points on the distributor and your wires are lined up on the right cylinders.
Old 07-31-2008, 04:00 PM
  #87  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
wrnchplr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Small town, CO.
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just to be clear. if all the marks are lined up and I turn the dizzy 180* then it will point down not up... is that correct??

Originally Posted by 76ANTHONY
YEP, take a break or it'll kick your azz. now try just flipping the timing 180 and then back and see what happens when you flip it 180, i did this and found out i was 180 off, its easy to be 180 off on the 3.slows
Old 07-31-2008, 04:21 PM
  #88  
Donny, you're out of your element
Staff
iTrader: (23)
 
DeathCougar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Marysville, WA
Posts: 17,689
Received 53 Likes on 34 Posts
lol don't give up so easily! Your timing is now perfect. That much I can see.

I would be looking at that dizzy.

btw, an engine swap would be a lot more work than this, including welding and fab work for new mounts.
Old 07-31-2008, 04:45 PM
  #89  
Registered User
 
just a 22re's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: milwaukee, WI baby muddin in the streets!!
Posts: 2,801
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
DC it could be but i dont think the cams are timed right i think his cams are 18- off thats why it wont start just a though though just take the valve cover off like i said and make sure the number 1s valves are both closed on the number one and that the dizzy is right at the number one! and make sure the air flow whatsacallit is pluged in to and it should just fire right on up!

you did say your getting spark at the plugs right not just the coil?
Old 07-31-2008, 04:49 PM
  #90  
Donny, you're out of your element
Staff
iTrader: (23)
 
DeathCougar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Marysville, WA
Posts: 17,689
Received 53 Likes on 34 Posts
His cams are lined up Allan. Hence why everything is lined to the match marks. Toyota doesn't put the marks there for no reason.

If the cams were 180 off, they would be pointing 180 away from the match marks. Which of course, would be wrong.
Old 07-31-2008, 04:53 PM
  #91  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
wrnchplr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Small town, CO.
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by just a 22re
DC it could be but i dont think the cams are timed right i think his cams are 18- off thats why it wont start just a though though just take the valve cover off like i said and make sure the number 1s valves are both closed on the number one and that the dizzy is right at the number one! and make sure the air flow whatsacallit is pluged in to and it should just fire right on up!

you did say your getting spark at the plugs right not just the coil?
Originally Posted by DeathCougar
His cams are lined up Allan. Hence why everything is lined to the match marks. Toyota doesn't put the marks there for no reason.

If the cams were 180 off, they would be pointing 180 away from the match marks. Which of course, would be wrong.

Thats what me thinking....I am getting spark, just to be sure I just got a new coil and ingnitor (sp) I am headed to install them and I will report back....
Old 07-31-2008, 06:17 PM
  #92  
Registered User
 
just a 22re's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: milwaukee, WI baby muddin in the streets!!
Posts: 2,801
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
ah yes ok i see it now wow brain fart like no other man lol
Old 07-31-2008, 06:19 PM
  #93  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
wrnchplr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Small town, CO.
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have renewed faith....I installed all the parts and now it's trying to start. It will crank and crank then catch for just a second then crank and crank...it's trying I just keep playing with the timing and hopefully it will start.

Originally Posted by just a 22re
ah yes ok i see it now wow brain fart like no other man lol
It's all good man. thats why I could understand what you were talking about.
Old 07-31-2008, 06:24 PM
  #94  
Contributing Member
 
EWAYota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Richland, Washington
Posts: 4,586
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Sweet! Hope to see your next post regarding the sweet sound of a long lasting idle!
Old 07-31-2008, 07:17 PM
  #95  
Registered User
 
just a 22re's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: milwaukee, WI baby muddin in the streets!!
Posts: 2,801
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
it will man let it unflood and you should be all good
Old 07-31-2008, 08:17 PM
  #96  
Registered User
 
76ANTHONY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 462
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by wrnchplr
I have renewed faith....I installed all the parts and now it's trying to start. It will crank and crank then catch for just a second then crank and crank...it's trying I just keep playing with the timing and hopefully it will start.



It's all good man. thats why I could understand what you were talking about.
like i said before, keeeeeeeeep crankin........
Old 07-31-2008, 08:41 PM
  #97  
Contributing Member
 
Djlarroc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is starting to get exciting. Boobies or no boobies.
Old 07-31-2008, 08:48 PM
  #98  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
wrnchplr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Small town, CO.
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Djlarroc
This is starting to get exciting. Boobies or no boobies.
I agree!!! to bad the mods changed the title.....I was on the way to 2,000 view!!! not to bad for a thread for a motor that wont start

the mods had a good point that some ppl could get in trouble at work. Me think they should just stop working
Old 07-31-2008, 08:50 PM
  #99  
Registered User
 
grant526's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento Valley, Ca
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Hope that's working for you!
It's encouraging to hear you sound so eager and excited about it. : )
Old 07-31-2008, 09:16 PM
  #100  
Donny, you're out of your element
Staff
iTrader: (23)
 
DeathCougar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Marysville, WA
Posts: 17,689
Received 53 Likes on 34 Posts
Aww damn they changed the title.

No worries, those of us who helped recieved our just rewards


Quick Reply: I need engine help



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:54 AM.