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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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I need engine help

Thats right I'll show you some EX. G.F. junk if you can help me get this running..

First off thanks to all that replied to my last post. I ended up getting a 92 runner with a 5 spd. I dropped in the fresh rebuild and that’s when the nightmare got worse…..

So it won’t start…now in an attempt to get this beast going here is what I have come across,

1. Stinks like gas.
2. Timing wont stay put.
3. I’m running out of patience and tequila!!!!

I really need some help here I’m out of money and time. I need to drive this to Iowa for school that starts on 8-26…..

I have checked all the grounds and even tried using jumper cables to add more.
The 1, 3,5 plugs don’t look like they have fired and the 2,4,6 ones look like they have, also they stink like gas.

I have reinstalled the timing belt a few times and this is what I come up with every time.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/Image008.jpg




http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t85/wrnchplr/runner/Image009.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t85/wrnchplr/runner/Image010.jpg

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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cam timing a bit off id say huh? ok heres how i did mine, you need to set the timing on the cams a tooth past where you think they go, then turn the engine over about 4 times by hand and vowla, bingo timing is usually dead on...
oh and my first time timing my runner took 5 hours, so dont be upset about it
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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Ditto,

It took me 10 hours to change my water pump becuase of you guessed it the timing. Could they make it a bit harder? I got it right the first time but took me 10 hours to make sure I did.

So where's those boobies
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 76ANTHONY
cam timing a bit off id say huh? ok heres how i did mine, you need to set the timing on the cams a tooth past where you think they go, then turn the engine over about 4 times by hand and vowla, bingo timing is usually dead on...
oh and my first time timing my runner took 5 hours, so dont be upset about it
Originally Posted by addicted56
Ditto,

It took me 10 hours to change my water pump becuase of you guessed it the timing. Could they make it a bit harder? I got it right the first time but took me 10 hours to make sure I did.

So where's those boobies

well I'm at the ten hour mark...76anthony I'll try your suggestion.
addicted here are those boobies

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Haha, I'd delete that if I were you though or you'll get banned and won't be able to post more...er...questions.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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nice!!!!!!!!! saved! lol ha ha no but yeah it be the timing my friend
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Who cares? Just don't look.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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guys c'mon, I don't see it hurting anybody, but seriously wrnchplr, just delete the link.

I wish you luck wrnchplr in your quest, I too will need my truck to go a long distance, a 6,500 mile trip next summer. :p

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Buhundred
Have you by any chance read the rules?
yes I have read the rules I just didn't think someone would get all butt hurt over looking at some T&A.....my bad what was I thinking. It has been removed to Accommodate those who are offended by the sight of nakedness
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 24Runna
guys c'mon, I don't see it hurting anybody, but seriously wrnchplr, just delete the link.

I wish you luck wrnchplr in your quest, I too will need my truck to go a long distance, a 6,500 mile trip next summer. :p

Thanks man. good luck on your trip..
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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wrnchplr; I like your determination to get answers.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Buhundred
Not offended by anything, just sayin so you don't get banned
But you did post the guy...... it's all good the link is gone.....

Originally Posted by 84RNR
wrnchplr; I like your determination to get answers.
Thanks
I am sure this issue as been covered before I'm just offering some incentive to help a guy out....besides she is a dirty cheating slut......
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Hey, i'll take a link! Send em to me!
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Hey, i'll take a link! Send em to me!
come on that isn't how this is going to work....I need to get this scrap heap on the road....offer me some tech advice and i'll send you the link....
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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who said boobies???

link anyone haha
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wrnchplr
come on that isn't how this is going to work....I need to get this scrap heap on the road....offer me some tech advice and i'll send you the link....
Oh, i thought you already had it figured out lol.

Ok, give a sec and I will post up what I know.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wrnchplr
Thats right I'll show you some EX. G.F. junk if you can help me get this running..

First off thanks to all that replied to my last post. I ended up getting a 92 runner with a 5 spd. I dropped in the fresh rebuild and that’s when the nightmare got worse…..

So it won’t start…now in an attempt to get this beast going here is what I have come across,

1. Stinks like gas.
2. Timing wont stay put.
3. I’m running out of patience and tequila!!!!

I really need some help here I’m out of money and time. I need to drive this to Iowa for school that starts on 8-26…..

I have checked all the grounds and even tried using jumper cables to add more.
The 1, 3,5 plugs don’t look like they have fired and the 2,4,6 ones look like they have, also they stink like gas.

I have reinstalled the timing belt a few times and this is what I come up with every time.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/Image008.jpg




http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t85/wrnchplr/runner/Image009.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t85/wrnchplr/runner/Image010.jpg

Ok. so. Gas smell is because its attempting to start, with no fire. Thats why your plugs are soaked in gas. Since the timing is off, it won't spark.

Timing- The cam match marks should be straight up and down, with the crank set to 0 degrees (again, the matchmark.) Timing is SUPER easy on the 3VZ. Just match up the 3 marks, put the belt on, and VIOLA!

Now, you mentioned you have a 92. 5/92 they redesigned the tensioner assy from a spring type, to a hydraulic type. If you have the wrong tensioner in there, or are not even using a tensioner, it will cause the timing to jump.

What is in there now? The tensioner is the only thing that can even move, assuming the timing belt is the correct length.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Also.....did you just rebuilt yours, or buy a rebuilt unit? Again, that will matter based on what engine design it is. What is the production date of your truck?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
Also.....did you just rebuilt yours, or buy a rebuilt unit? Again, that will matter based on what engine design it is. What is the production date of your truck?

link for said boobies pm'd

The runner is a 92 how ever the motor is from my 95 with a production date of I'm not sure (it's not here) all I put in was a long block. I used the fuel injectors from the 95 but I checked the part number to be sure there the same. I did line up all 4 timing marks as per the FSM.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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What is the production date of your 92?

If its pre-may/92, then you had a spring type tensioner. If you installed that 95 engine without intalling the Fan support/Hydraulic tensioner from the 95, it will continue to jump time.

If it has the correct 6/92-95 hydraulic tensioner and all related pieces, you may have a failing/failed tensioner. And i know its a silly question, but (if you have a tensioner) is it screwed in all the way? It needs to be bolted down tight flush to the fan support.
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