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Old 07-31-2008, 12:53 PM
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I don't know if x2 is enough info to justify sending the link....you should have been here yesterday when it was posted for all to enjoy....
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Well now you have the timing lined up, thats good.

Did you make sure the dizzy rotor was pointing to #1 when all the matchmarks were lined up? it can be easy to get the dizzy set wrong, since there are 10 or so possible ways to set it in there.
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So lets recap!

You have fuel and spark? All connections are extablished?

Edit: nevermind

Listen to coug

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yes it is pointed at #1 also lined up the mark on the bottom of the dizzy shaft
with the mark on the gear.
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Well now you have the timing lined up, thats good.

Did you make sure the dizzy rotor was pointing to #1 when all the matchmarks were lined up? it can be easy to get the dizzy set wrong, since there are 10 or so possible ways to set it in there.
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So lets recap!

You have fuel and spark? All connections are extablished?
That is a 10-4....got lots of gas. opened the line to the cold start injector while it was being cranked and it sprayed all over. I had all the plugs out yesterday and lined them up on the fender while cranking the engine I could see all 6 sparking. it was a strong blue arc.
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So my guess would be it its because of the timing. (duh, )

Like deathcougar said, make sure the disy was set in the right position!

When the cam gears where in the right spot, the disy should have been at #1.
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So then you have:

Fuel
Spark
Timing is set correctly (sounds like)
And obviously air. I am assuming you DO have the Airflow meter hooked up? Won't start without that

So you have fuel IN the cylinders.
And you have Spark IN the cylinders.
And the engine is PERFECTLY in time.

And it won't fire?

Now I am stumped.
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btw it IS possible to set it at #1, and be 180 off. It need to be set to #1 on the compression stroke...so, with all matchmarks lined up correctly, that is your compression stroke. 0 (zero) on the crank pulley, should be #1 on the dizzy.
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^ X2

We had to mess with that before on mine, when i first started working on trucks
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How would one tell if it's wrong? I have the crank set to 0* and both cams at the notch. I know very little about the 3.0 and just set things up like on the 22re.

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btw it IS possible to set it at #1, and be 180 off. It need to be set to #1 on the compression stroke...so, with all matchmarks lined up correctly, that is your compression stroke. 0 (zero) on the crank pulley, should be #1 on the dizzy.
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take a plug out the number one and put a coat hanger in it to make sure its right at the top it eighter would go all the way in or stop right away you need it at the top then seee if that works or what i pmed you lol
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take a plug out the number one and put a coat hanger in it to make sure its right at the top it eighter would go all the way in or stop right away you need it at the top then seee if that works or what i pmed you lol
I'll give that a try.........
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x2 on what Allan said!!

How about some CO brother love?

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here are the pictures...
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
So then you have:

Fuel
Spark
Timing is set correctly (sounds like)
And obviously air. I am assuming you DO have the Airflow meter hooked up? Won't start without that

So you have fuel IN the cylinders.
And you have Spark IN the cylinders.
And the engine is PERFECTLY in time.

And it won't fire?

Now I am stumped.
I have the airflow meter hooked up. I have also changed the meter, dizzy and coil..... I know there is gas in the cylinders, if I pull the spark plug out I can light the gas on fire. I an assuming the timing is PERFECT.
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Originally Posted by Djlarroc
x2 on what Allan said!!

How about some CO brother love?

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I'm all about hooking a man up but something not working with the links.
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THAT'S IT I'M DONE!!!!!! after all this time and money the SOB still wont start. I give up. I have checked the fuel lines, vac. lines, plug wires and all the other stuff. I have added 3 new grounds and replaced the one from the battery to the body. I have had the belt off so many times I lots count. I am going to do what I should have done in the firts place... Now I am going to install a 22re because I know that motor isn't a pile............anyone want to buy a long block? all new parts and never started
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Thanks to everyone who offered help. I will be starting a tread on the motor swap soon as I get started....
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hey buddy look at my pm i think that will explaine why she wont start i can almost 0.0000000001% say thats why its not running!!!! ok i lied i say thats 99.99% why its not running!
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watch this my friend!!! it will show you how a 4-stroke works and what we all mean by being 180 off!
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oops my bad i got distracted on this little cat champing on my big toe!
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