Hey thanks! These guys are saying that:
a: there is a windshield "A", that uses plactic (chrome or black) "trim", that clips on.
b: there is a slightly larger window on the trucks that originally came with a rubber lip, not a "clip on" trim, for this a part number is lacking.

Your 93 seems to have the plastic trim. So your windshield will not have the part number they are looking for.

depiante Says "different entirely", but to me it looks just like my CA or CH Runners, plastic trim over glued windshield. :shrug:

This is the "non glue Version"?
56111-89130 LAMINATED GLASS, T=5.3
56121-89117 WEATHERSTRIP, WINDSHIELD
https://www.megazip.net/zapchasti-dl...glass-18016119

1988 TOYOTA HILUX (YN55R-JRQ)
STD ARL RHD RCB T1 1YC CBR MTM 4H CBU

 

56111-89130 Points to a Hilux windshield. Non-US market. I'd like to be able to find one of those.

Thanks for the info.

 

Ok folks, I purchased a new Toyota rubber windshield gasket from Toyhead Auto, sold as fitting my 1985 Toyota Xtra Cab 4x4 truck, to replace the stock rusting clips and trim, for a #FW471 size windshield. I've seen several photos on various forums showing this same gasket, http://toyheadauto.com/Toyota_Truck_...therstrip.html, also known as

Windshield rubber seal Toyota Hilux LN50 without Moulding Front 56121-89117

sold for non US market. Please can anyone report what windshield size/code is compatible with this gasket? My auto glass guy thinks the gasket WILL NOT FIT a #FW471 size windshield. He suggested it might fit a #FW623. NEED HELP from anyone who has successfully installed this gasket: what size windshieldis correct???

Thanks!

 

Yeah, I am afraid we got had. A 471 will not work. I'll see if I can test a 623 on Monday, but I am not optimistic. The only people who have made a 471 work got out the grinder and made it fit.

 

I had two different glass installers come out and try to make an FW471 windshield work with the infamous rubber gasket. No, it doesn't work and it will never work. The windshield that works with the gasket is not available in the United States.

I took the truck to Safelight, and the installer (who is WONDERFUL) spent hours with me trying to make some king of universal trim work. He was not satisfied, and asked why not use the gasket. I explained it to him and he told me to just resize the window, so I could use the gasket. Then he told me how. So, here's what you want to do...

1. You will want to remove a full 3/8 inch from the bottom, and 3/16 inch from each side.
2. Super clean the glass.
3. Lay it out using tape (see the picture).
4. Put tape top and bottom because you will have to alternate sides often as you work.
5. Make sure the tape is very well adhered. This helps prevent the inevitable chipping from running in too far.
6. Put 80 grit paper on your belt sander.
7. Keep the sander moving constantly, but not too fast.
8. Start by breaking the sharp edge (called "seaming") of the glass on all three edges and rounding the top corners.
9. Do this for top and bottom. This keeps the edges from chipping.
10. You can use a random orbit sander to seam the edges also.
11. Run your belt sander vertically (assuming the glass is horizontal), tipped forward a bit.
12. Again, this is to keep from chipping the bottom edge.
13. Turn the glass over and do the same from the other side.
14. After about 5 million passses, you will end up with a slight point around the plastic layer in the glass.
15. This point will probably be a bit chipped. Run the sander vertically to clean that up.
16. You will now have new square edges top and bottom.
17. Seam the edges, top and bottom, and repeat the entire process until you are at your tape line.
18. Seam the edges one last time to clean up the chips.
19. Install it using the old rope trick. Use heavier rope to avoid tearing the gasket.

Top picture is of seamed top edge. Bottom picture is shows the slight point around the plastic.


Taper your corners evenly. Lay it out with tape, top and bottom. Ensure the tape is very well adhered.


The end result. WAY better than a universal trim solution.

 

Sanding the windshield to fit

I like that solution

How many days of sanding did it take?

 

We went REALLY slowly, took 1/4 inch off the bottom and 1/8 of the sides. That took about 3 hours of steady work.

When we got it done, it was a bit too tight still (we tore the gasket putting it in) and so we pulled it out and took another 1/8 inch off the bottom. That took another couple hours.

I would say plan on spending four hours.

BTW, dry sanding glass is a dumb idea, but that was our only choice. If you have access to a wet sander, you will get it done in under an hour.

 

Good to know, thank you!
Cover your mouth and nose to protect your lungs when sanding glass, that dust is dangerous.

 

Do you by chance know where the windshield seal came from on your 4runner? Part number? Looks really good for this repair...

 

Mine's an 86 pickup, but it is the same for the 4runner of that generation. I got the gasket from here:

http://toyheadauto.com/Toyota_Truck_...therstrip.html

I have one with a slight, inconsequential tear that you can have for $25 plus shipping if you want to save a lot of money.

Jim

 

Wow that's a great site - dash pads AND window gaskets! Got a pic of that inconsequential tear? I'm interested

 

It's on the inside, near where the mirror attaches. It is covered by the headliner.

 

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I don't get how the gasket can get pulled over the metal lip at the top from the inside.
Is the headliner not in the way? The pictures from the inside showing the A pillar and dashboard are obvious but the top along the headliner isn't clear to me. How can I pull the rope around the headliner to get the gasket to seat?

 

I haven't been on here for a long time, but this is not true. There is absolutely no reason to sand down a windshield. So much unnecessary work. I lived in Minnesota at the time, ordered the cheapest windshield straight off Rock Auto, ordered the gasket I specified in my post from eBay, and roped it on in one shot. I can't even imagine going to the effort to sand down a windshield. Crazy. The correct size is absolutely available in the US.

 

Shudak- yes you are correct about the glass, my research shows the same conclusions. It is worth noting however that two glass shops I have talked to show 2 different model numbers of glass one is listed as the glue in "urethane" and the other number for a gasket installation. Upon asking them their computer data does not give the glass dimensions, so I cannot confirm whether or not they are dimensionally the same glass.Obviously I just put in the order for the model listed as gasketed but who knows... I think the difference stems from confusion dating back decades of out of "US" market import vehicles. I believe the urethane install was a quick and dirty "safety" thing Toyota did at the time to comply with US DOT safety standards that were rapidly changing at the time vs Asian market.

 

-Could you please explain what happens with the gasket along the top against the headliner section, does the rubber lip go over the headliner edge? It doesn't look like it will work unless the headliner is removed?
-Also can you confirm that you had to remove the black metal bar along the front of the dashboard and after installation of the gask-eted glass did this dash "bar" go back in or was it left out ?


thank if you clear this up for me I am working on same project as you did I have the same "rare" burgundy/red interior as your truck.

 

I know this is an old thread. As of today I can confirm that a gasket installed works on a 5th generation(overseas) 3rd generation (USA-Canada)pickup truck . Mine is a 1989 pickup-(Hilux) So this would apply from 1989-1995 USA-Canada pickup trucks ---BEFORE Tacoma.

Must be stated this is for 1989-1995 Trucks
Many details about this thread focus on the older pre 1989 trucks. There are many differences on those trucks including that the glue in or gasket in windshield MAY be the same size on the older trucks I cannot confirm.
BUT on the 1989-1995 trucks as you will read here it is absolutely a different size piece of glass (smaller) for gasket set style.

I can 100% percent confirm that the windshield that gets used with a gasket install is absolutely physically smaller than the windshield used with a glue -in urethane install. The glass shop ordered in both and and lay one on top the other there WAS a difference.

The part number for the correct glass to use with a gasket is:

PGW (Pittsburgh Glass Works) FW 00623 . In my area Vancouver BC they had one sitting in a warehouse. So they are more "rare" than the urethane glass but they are out there and available.

The gasket used is fairly hard to source in N.America Rock Auto used to have it but no longer stocked. I got mine from Thailand . Overseas( Thailand-Australia Philippines-and Argentina) our trucks are called Toyota Hilux LN111(extra cab model) Regular cab is LN100 . In Thailand it was also known as the Toyota Hilux Mighty "X"

Here is the gasket part number and a link to one seller there are probably vendors in Australia were you could get it too I did not check. I got mine from Thailand for about $80 Canadian including shipping.

88-97 TOYOTA HILUX YN80 RN85 LN85 RN90 LN100 FRONT WINDSCREEN WEATHERSTRIP SEAL #192884253320

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/192884253320?ul_noapp=true

The gasket is re-useable many times.

In my case I will confirm three things that seem to be debated in this thread.

The A pillar plastic trim inside must be removed.
The front of the headliner must be "dropped" down this is a little involved because you must remove your rear view mirror-light combo-remove your sun visors. Then you must remove (5 i think) small sheet metal screws that hold up the front edge of the headliner. these screws are hidden beneath the vinyl headliner.
What I did was locate them by "feel" then i made a small indent into the headliner with the star screwdriver. Then use a razor blade to carefully make a small "x" cut in the vinyl and extract the five-6 screws. This will be hidden later on when things go back together. The very ,very tiny cuts that you make will be un-noticeable when your sun visors go back on. They are very tiny screws that attach a metal bar to the roof to hold up the front edge of the headliner.

Also worst part in front of the dash there is a "black metal bar" that runs the length of the frontt of the dash. You have to pull the dash to get at this bar, even though it is only retained by 4 very small sheet metal screws. This bar does not go back in after everything is finished. But if it not taken out then the rubber lip of the gasket cannot be properly installed over the bottom pinch weld for the glass. If your experienced with these trucks the dash removal is only about an hour to take out and another half hour to go back in. It can go back in right away after "the black bar" is removed as there will now be enough "clearance" for the "rope" installed glass. You will never have to pull the dash again for future glass work it is one time annoyance only.

We think (myself and the glass tech) that Toyota put this "bar" to hide the urethane that oozes out along the front of the dashboard when the sent these trucks to USA and Canada back in the day. When you switch over to a gasket install the gasket looks very nice along the bottom front of the dash and so this "bar" is not needed. IT is a one time deal to take it out and then it will be very simple to do a gasket intstall windsheild down the line should it get a rock or what not.

If there is interest. Then I will add photos of how it looks and some of the stages during the install including all the rust I had to deal with first from the stupid Chrome trim glue in style glass.

NOTE - many glass shops will NOT do this if you have a urethane install as auto insurance agencies consider it a safety thing( I guess) Sorry but I can't get into details of how I "worked" around this. Other than to say insurance companies are in the black when it comes to 30 year old import vehciles. There was so much variation at the time. I can confirm from some people that I know that sometimes a few trucks were sent over here on the ship with factory gasket install instead of urethane install. Probably missed by customs at the time...?? who knows..????

The debate with alot of people is that a urethane install adds structural integrity to the body. This is true of modern day vehicles with a Uni-body structure. Remember our trucks are full frame vehicles originally designed to use a gasket install.

myself and several experienced (decades) glass technicians think that the only reason Toyota sent these trucks with Urethane installed windhields to USA-Canada at the time was to comply with the DOT and transport regulations. So Toyota scrambled and glued in a "bigger" windshield(BAND-AID SOLUTION) in order to sell them in our market and comply with the rapidly changing safety standards early 1980's-- until the Tacoma came along with a re-tooled body which properly accepts a urethane install.

Anyhow it took me like a year of planning and research to figure out this windhshield install. But in the end I pulled it off, and I hope I managed to save this old truck for a few more hunting seasons anyways! I hope this helps anyone thinking of going this route .I know firsthand how difficult projects can get without these online forums especially on vintage vehciles.

 

Yes! Pictures, please!

 

Ok will try to upload tonight some pictures
This will be for my 1989 SR5 extra cab.Originally a urethane install with chrome window trim. It will show a fresh gasket style install(no urethane no ˟˟˟˟ty chrome trim anymore). Just like a vintage VW Beetle.