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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 04:32 PM
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I can't wait to see pictures, but I'm fairly certain that the 84-88 gasket, opening, and glass are all very different from the 89-95 trucks.

The end result. WAY better than a universal trim solution.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by depiante
I can't wait to see pictures, but I'm fairly certain that the 84-88 gasket, opening, and glass are all very different from the 89-95 trucks.

The end result. WAY better than a universal trim solution.
what model year truck is this red truck with the gasket set glass?
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 05:57 PM
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pictures 89-95 toyota pickup gasket style windshield NO GLUE



the original urethane with foam underlay install. Pictured sideways of the driver A pillar also showing wires that run up the pillar to the dome light(S)

original urethane install showing dome light and mirror removed before glass removed to start bodywork rust restoration of window frame

A pillar showing the gross urethane install with foam backer gasket with rust showing. it was leaking here last winter. this is when the research for this install began.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 06:58 PM
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more pics 1989 SR5 extra cab


new gasket install along driver a pillar

rust all this urethane and rust must go away..

urethane install driver a pillar wires going up to dome lights

here you can see the "black metal bar" in front of the VIN tag . The dash needs to come out and this bar removed so that the gasket can go over the pinch weld.This is a bitch but it is a one time deal. The bar does not go back after gasket glass install. Which makes future glass install easy.again this is the ugliest part of the job(besides bodywork for rust)

outside looking in at front of headliner showing original urethane installed glass.

showing drivers sun visor removed. under here is a metal bar that holds the headliner to the roof. you must feel around for the 4 or five tiny screws hiding under the vinyl headliner. When you feel them with your finger cut a tiny "x" in the headliner and remove them. there are 5 screws i think and 1 plastic rivet that will pop out when you pull down the metal bar lowering the front headliner. i used 1 screw to hold up the headliner during the project so that it would not rip.

front of headliner down

headliner down in front showing how it is held up by tiny screws

the 1 plastic rivet the rest of the front headliner has about 5 tiny screws holding it to the roof.

i think we are still looking at the glue in install at this point

the black metal bar in front of the dash which must be removed to do a gasket style install.

black metal bar must be removed held in by just 4 tiny black sheet metal screws

close up of the black bar showing 1 of the 4 screws holding it in. the white plastic hole on the left is one of the spots where the dashboard "clips"/snaps in .

black metal closeup from drivers side door

in this image the rust repair was completed around the window frame but the black metal bar at the front of the dash still has to come out.

headliner loooking in


completed "overseas style" gasket set windshield on a 1989 SR5 pickup truck

in this image you can see the new rubber gasket along the passenger side dashboard. if the black metal bar as mentioned earlier was not removed then this rubber cant go over the pinch weld properly

gasket install from inside view along roofline before headliner goes back up.

new gasket along driver pillar showing it even had clearance for factory dome light wires

gasket install aka rope install in front of dome light looking up before headliner goes back up.

this is the black metal bar shown removed but posed near where it was originally installed at the front of the dash

new gasket along the dashboard no more metal bar. The bar never goes back in. it may not look it but there is enough room to rope in a new windshield from here on out.

front headliner before it came down

new gasket inside along passenger pillar

i think new gsaket along roofline with headliner installed back up

the black metal bar that HAD to come out .does not go back in EVER. as you can see the new rubber along the dashboard and new windshield

the black bar when it was still installed with a urethane windshield we believe that its only purpose was to hide the urethane goop along the dash.

Freshly restored and painted out window glass frame with lower cowl and wiper blades removed

close up of dash popped back so that that black metal flange can come out. it has just 4 screws holing it to the firewall you can 1 of the screws beside the a pillar

gross urethane install along driver pillar showing the rust caused by ˟˟˟˟ty chrome trim outside and IMO a truck never meant to be a urethane install

outside looking in rear mirror removed still has urethane install at this point early on.

Fresh window frame back from the body shop. I drove it home like this! with sunglasses on! Also drove back to the glass shop . it was brought home to remove that infamous black bar in front of the dashboard took about 3 hors to pull the dash and then remove bar reinstall dash back in

close up of the front headliner that has to drop down it has 1 plastic rivet and then about 5 very small star screws hidden under the vinyl liner that hold this metal bar and headliner up

fresh gasket passenger side view alig dash and a pillar


here is 1 of the headliner screws. it was like this only during the restoration proccess just barely screwed in . Afterwards it will be hidden there is a slit cut in the vinyl behind it so when it is screwed all the way it will dissapera gain

here is what everyone probably wants. The PART NUMBER for the correct gasket installed windshield

shwoing the dashboard pulled back a little from the windshiled so that 1 of 4 screwws can come out and the black metal bar can then be removed. you can put the dash back back together after beacause there will now be enough room to do the rope installed windshield. This bar does not go back in. I may save it as an ass scratcher

new rope installed gasket shown along the hood the out metal cowl and wipers are not put back at this point

here is a tiny hole that lets you remove the front headliner. again these screws are "hidden" but you can easily "feel" for them and then carefully cut a little "X" into the headliner. again i think there were either 4 or 6 of them plus the 1 little plastic rivet holding it up.


new gasket along roof line and passenger A pillar You can see the sunroof drain pipe in this photo. Just before headliner went back up

passenger a pillar inside showing rust and urethane installed glass.

new gasket along driver a pillar even has room for the factory dome light wire. you can see here how the rubber "lip" pulls up and over the pinch weld sealing in the glass, This is all done dry no urethane or any adhesives. glass installer used a cotton clothes line rope about the thickness of a 10 gauge electrical wire.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 07:35 PM
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difference

here is a comparison pictures of the 84-88 trucks and then the 89-95 trucks overseas markets(Thailand and Argentina) carried on the what we consider a 3rd generation truck until at least 1997 they all had rope gasket installed windshields all the way through. Only in Canada and the US they sent them over with glue in glass urethane.

I believe this is 84-88 pickup truck with gasket in Thailand it was called Hilux "Hero"

The 89-95 pickup with gasket install. In Thailand called a Toyota Hilux LN100(reg cab) Ln 111 (extra cab) these were made until at least 1997 over there and possibly up to 1999 in Argentina. In Thailand this truck was also called the Toyota Hilux Mighty "X" must be the mushrooms over there who knows...?
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 03:10 AM
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Ha! Folks have been wrestling with this for a LONG tie. I found this on the forum -- from 2008:
SOME '89-'91 trucks had gasket style windshields. I believe the low-end 2WD single cabs sported them. The cab has a different style lip, and the windshields are different.

FW623 - gasket type, '89-91 trucks
FW598 - glue-in type, '89-'95 trucks
FW471 - glue-in type, '84-'88 trucks
FW397 - gasket type, '79-'83 trucks


The red truck with the gasket is my 1986.



For all that, we still don't know the number of a windshield that will fit with the gasket on the 84-88 trucks.


Nice write-up, by the way. Anyone wanting to do that now has a much easier job of it.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 11:18 AM
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ANY 1989-1995 Toyota Hilux pickup Can use a FW00623 Windshield with a gasket. BEFORE Tacoma Models came out. I think 94.5 model year



Even if your truck is currently or originally urethane/glued in with a FW598 windshield (this is what I had ,then I obviously converted to gasket style) It is just a bit more monkey around to do the install than the earlier generation trucks.


Sorry to the 84 -88 guys. I don't have a gasket style, windshield part number for you all. I can ask the glass techs that I know and see if they can track it. There is another fella on this forum in my home province. He is very confident that the glass for the 84-88 trucks that is needed to use a gasket is NOT available in North America and he has restored several 84-88 trucks.The 84-88 gasket windshield was available in Can-USA in the past but he says most likely not stocked anymore. But should I find the part number and a source I will come back here to post it.

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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 12:02 PM
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Yeah, I did a pretty exhaustive search, and I'm convinced that there is not a smaller windshield that would work available anywhere in NA. And no one was able to tell me a number that would work even if in another region.

Do let us now if you find one!
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 01:24 PM
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84-88 pssible windscreen part number

Originally Posted by depiante
Yeah, I did a pretty exhaustive search, and I'm convinced that there is not a smaller windshield that would work available anywhere in NA. And no one was able to tell me a number that would work even if in another region.

Do let us now if you find one!
A relative in New Zealand, gave me these numbers for you 84-88 model year Hilux pickup truck owners:

i would think that there would be a "cross reference" chart for North American suppllier like PGW. I hope this helps someone out there wanting to do a gasket "set" install of a windshield. 1984-1988 ONLY. Other generations of trucks will be DIFFERENT part numbers.(see earlier in thread)

Here it is: The windscreen glass number for a Toyota Hilux LN106 truck (AKA 1984-1988 Toyota pickup USA/CAN) Is: 56111-89144 / 56111-89145 / 56111-35030 (all the same number)

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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 03:30 AM
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Hey there, HILUXLN111.

Those are certainly the correct glass for LN106, but I am showing that the LN106 was the generation after 84-88 (i.e., released on 27 September, 1988 for the 1989 model year).

http://www.toyota-global.com/company...538/index.html

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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 09:42 PM
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here's what i found

I've done a pretty exhaustive search as well and i think i've come up with some info. in this link to the rubber gasket it details the windscreen codes "TT561, TT1360,839672." https://www.ozautomoulds.com.au/toyo...dscreen-rubber .

in this link look at the picture of the windshield, it has the code "M445" https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ta-hilux-ln65/

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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloo85
I've done a pretty exhaustive search as well and i think i've come up with some info. in this link to the rubber gasket it details the windscreen codes "TT561, TT1360,839672." https://www.ozautomoulds.com.au/toyo...dscreen-rubber .

in this link look at the picture of the windshield, it has the code "M445" https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ta-hilux-ln65/
Looks like you found the codes for the right windshields! Good on ya! I wish those were available in the US! In any case, the picture at the link is not of that generation truck. It's an LN65. That's a different truck and a different windshield.
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Old Oct 12, 2019 | 05:50 PM
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why do you think it's a different gen? it's an LN65 Hilux. all that's different is it has a diesel and 4 doors. I've got an RN66 myself. the L and R just specifies engine code. whereas the two numerical digits specifiy body style and chassis configuration.

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Old Oct 12, 2019 | 06:12 PM
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So it is! How can we get that glass in the US?
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Old Oct 12, 2019 | 06:43 PM
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no idea, I don't think that particular designation has all of the required safety markings for the U.S market. On a recent business trip i stopped in a Pilkington location and inquired about the Glued vs Gasket issue and they didn't have an answer for me. the next time i'm across the pond i'll see what i can come up with. I'm hoping they can give me a NAGS # or some other reference #. if i find anything i'll post it up. Although I did see one poster on this forum said he fitted his without trimming. I tried it with my OEM FW471 and I couldn't get it to fit no matter how hard I tried. I ended up trimming it to your specs and it fit in nicely.
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Old Oct 13, 2019 | 02:32 AM
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That would be great! I would consider importing a small quantity of them into the US if we could get past the regulatory issues.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 11:03 AM
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WOW - Thanks to everyone that contributed to this topic! I must say though, after reading through this whole thing, I'm still confused. I would also like to replace my glass, and not deal with the chrome plastic trim. I have a 1989 single cab pickup, and live in the US (NJ to be exact). Just when I thought I had it figured out, I'm second guessing the info. If someone would be kind enough to let me know if this works in the US, from personal experience, I'd greatly appreciate it!
* Windshield - PGW FW00623 - for gasket install (Is this glass available in the US?)
* Gasket seal - #192884253320 for 88-97

* If an installer refuses to do a gasket style install, I have to order a glue-in style FW598 glass, and deal with some kind of universal trim?

I think that's correct after combing through the info, but the years and locations were all over the map (literally), so I'm just making sure.

Thanks!
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 11:08 AM
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Most of the thread is about the 84-88 generation. I think the 89 problem is easier to solve.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by depiante
Most of the thread is about the 84-88 generation. I think the 89 problem is easier to solve.
Seriously?!? I thought I was in the right section (86-95) Damnit
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Draggin'
Seriously?!? I thought I was in the right section (86-95) Damnit
89-95 is the range you're looking for mate.
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