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Help..Rounded off tank bolt.

Old Jul 4, 2013 | 08:11 AM
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Help..Rounded off tank bolt.

6 bolts on the tank to drop it.
ONE of em just twists in it's hole, rounded out...as I call it.
Enough to make a good ole Southern Methodist boy say dad da##it.
Any suggestions?
tapping it with a hammer just makes 32 year old rust and dirt dobbers fall on me.Nowhere to really wedge a flathead in. I can't see on top, but the nut it's twisting in must be welded onto the bracket that. I can feel it twisting when I turn it, but not backing out.
It's the one on the back section, top, closest to the drivers side, next to the drive shaft.
I know this is basic, but I never professed to be a mechanic. I put pacemakers in hearts much better than I do this.
But heck. I keep on trying, I'll get there.
Thanks
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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Posted on the main page before I saw this... Trying to visualize which bolt it is... If you can get to it with vicegrips, I would try that first.. Then a chisel or cut off wheel..
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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Sawzall or vise grips on the back side to hold the nut if u can
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 09:05 AM
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I'm not there right now to double check but isn't that nut welded to the frame? I just felt the top of the bolt twisting in it but not catching and coming out.
I'll get me some PB too. Thanks gmack.
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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[QUOTE=yotantn;I put pacemakers in hearts much better than I do this.

i hope so LOL...

don't skin any knuckles like i do in these situatiuons, not good for your profession.

like stated above pb blaster then visegrips if you can get to it, if that does not work then it's either a cutoff wheel/grinder OR you can use a drill to drill the head off the bolt then more penetrating oil and heat with a propane torch and then use vice grips. carefull, remove all gas related items from area.
if that does not work just drill the bolt out of the fixed nut, by drilling exactly in the center and use a tap and die set to retap or in this case chase the threads after you get everything out of the way.

you are enjoying the thrill of working on old and rusted stuff... good luck.

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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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[QUOTE=donomite49;52093419][QUOTE=yotantn;I put pacemakers in hearts much better than I do this.

i hope so LOL...

don't skin any knuckles like i do in these situatiuons, not good for your profession.

like stated above pb blaster then visegrips if you can get to it, if that does not work then it's either a cutoff wheel/grinder OR you can use a drill to drill the head off the bolt then more penetrating oil and heat with a propane torch and then use vice grips. carefull, remove all gas related items from area.
if that does not work just drill the bolt out of the fixed nut, by drilling exactly in the center and use a tap and die set to retap or in this case chase the threads after you get everything out of the way.

you are enjoying the thrill of working on old and rusted stuff... good luck.[/QUOTE]

Got it..it's on my build up thread.
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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this is the beauty of working/building old vehicles ...

bust some knuckles , and blead the red stuff .. welcome to the club !!



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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slacker
this is the beauty of working/building old vehicles ...

bust some knuckles , and blead the red stuff .. welcome to the club !!



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Dood, that's the truth. I beat up an elbow today pretty rightous. But I got that dang bolt out. LOL. Good feeling.

I'll get there. Me and some AC/DC in the barn. I spend a lot of time just piddling around in my barn and on the truck. LOL.

Now...if I can just figure out how to get that filler tube off the tank, I think I'll finish getting that tank down and get it cleaned out!
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 04:39 AM
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What ever you do DON'T use a propane torch or grinding wheel anywhere near a gas tank.....even an empty tank sometimes still has enough fumes to ignite and create a situation......scrapped nuckles would be the least of your worries at that point.....
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 04:47 AM
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hack saw on the bolt is about the safest way to eliminate the sparks
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 06:50 AM
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Oh, I got it off. I was wrong. I thought that nut was welded to the frame. It was just twisting around on top of the frame, I could feel it. So I slapped an open end 12 on it and backed the bolt out just fine.
Now...fishing it out from the frame/springs/etc is another story.
I think I'm just gonna go ahead and take the bed off. Got a few other stuff to do in there anyways that'll make those lil jobs easier.
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 07:17 AM
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[QUOTE=donomite49; remove all gas related items from area.


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if you remove the gas tank and cap all gas lines etc it sould be safe to use a propane torch to heat a rusted bolt.

keep in mind that muffler shops weld exhaust systems with the gas tank in place.

not trying to get anyone hurt or cause damage to anyones property, just trying to help.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by donomite49
if you remove the gas tank and cap all gas lines etc it sould be safe to use a propane torch to heat a rusted bolt.

keep in mind that muffler shops weld exhaust systems with the gas tank in place.

not trying to get anyone hurt or cause damage to anyones property, just trying to help.
And I appreciate that help bud.
I did get it off though. See my above thread, I was wrong. I thought the nut was welded to the frame.
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