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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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GM Alternator details (please)

I guess i had too much fun today, i killed my alternator... it's putting out a cool 2.5v at 3k LOL

now, read this thread: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...=gm+alternator

I WANT THAT alternator.

now: 98LTDCustom or someone, i would like:

the part number and/or what vehicle it came off of.

the details for the wiring, as in, it's a 4-wire alt, right?
again, details lol

some washers? uhm, ya... so you're saying the GM alt has the exact same bolting points as our yota one? that one was only a 1/4in off or so?

It's 30degrees tomorrow, i don't want to be out there all day.

THANKS!!!
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I would also like an answer for this, although I don't need is as quickly as Crappled here.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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CS130 alternator...https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...=GM+alternator

CS130 = 160amp
CS144 = 200amp

By the way...BOO YEAH FOR SEARCHING!

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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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and to help EVERYONE ELSE. i'll be sure to do a parts/details/wiring/mods/washers writeup =)

i have a headache now though
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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the cs130 requires modding though? the threads i've read show that you need to make a new lower bracket. 98LTD says he just added washers to his 200amp version.

so, which one?

the CS130 - 100-105 actual amps
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the CS144 - 140 amps.

ALSO!!!
The 130 is a 1groove/1v belt, the 144 is a 6 groove belt...
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Of all places to find a good list:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ALTER...spagenameZWDVW
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Yeah there really is nothing to it, the "work" is done by the alternator shop. I wouldn't even waste time at a junkyard trying to find a donor, just go to any auto electric/starter/alternator shop and they'll have cores. That CS130 sounds right, tomorrow I'd be back at school and see my receipt exactly what I bought if you want but it's a VERY common alternator. I thought it was found in the trucks, burbs, and tahoe's.... which is what that other link says too. Just tell them you want to put that in your Toyota, so have them put a Toyota wiring harness on it. As far as "parts" you need 3 washers... that's it. I don't know the diameter though, sorry. You use the same tensioner setup and everything else. Once you get the thing in your hands, it's just like replacing the old one +3 washers. Oh and you can basically tell them how big you want that thing wound to, mine is 200 amp and that may be the max not for sure. Costed $210 for me, don't get screwed...
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by crappled
the cs130 requires modding though? the threads i've read show that you need to make a new lower bracket. 98LTD says he just added washers to his 200amp version.

so, which one?

the CS130 - 100-105 actual amps
or

the CS144 - 140 amps.

ALSO!!!
The 130 is a 1groove/1v belt, the 144 is a 6 groove belt...
Well, if he said he got a 200amp, it would be the CS144 with 140 actual amps.

EDIT: We don't have a one groove belt, I think we have a 6 groove. But then again, the pulley can be changed over if need be.

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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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So are you saying that you you went from nothing in hand to a 200amp GM Alt with a Toyota wireing harness for $210?

EDIT: Wrong price. Changed to the right one.

EDIT: Added the blurb about the Toy wireing.

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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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by looking, i'd say the CS144 looks to be it
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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210 installed?!??!!?
hell, that's probably cheaper than getting one from advanced/whatever and installing it myself.

the gm alt's use a 3wire setup, i thought ours used a 4 wire setup.
what should i look 4 here?

now, you said 200amp, the cs144 is called the '200amp' one, but it's actually really 140, but as the rpms increase, it gets up to 200.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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so.... some more info.

turns out Dominick Irragi uses the cs144 or whatever it is.

here's what i got from this thread....
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...ead.php?t=1043

Originally Posted by shovelracer
I am thinking of getting the same 220 from Iraggi. Did you need to modify anything to make it fit. Brakets, wirings, or any issues along the way. Any help would be great. They swear theirs are better than the competition. There are so many choices though.
Thanks
They ship you the alternator with some washers that are welded together. You'll need to use them as spacers. As for the wiring, you'll have to cut your old plug off and install the new plug. Make sure you KEEP your old plug, just in case you need a backup. I own one of his alternators, and I love it. I think there was a Mr.Alternator link here...and thats supposed to be plug and play. If I knew that from the start, I would have went that route. (if you didn't need/want 220amps vs. thier 150amp).

The alternator I recieved from Dominic was a modified GMC unit made to fit my 01 DC.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Okay I wasn't clear. To get 200 amps, the tech basically puts different internals into a CS144 case. You're not going to walk in, buy it, and walk out. You'll have to walk in, explain yourself and what you want, and then give the guy a day or two to get it built. The $210 I paid was for a the alternator core, the internals, and the labor for the guy to do it. I put it on myself, there's very little to it. Some people like Dom's alternators, some say they don't put out as much as he says they do...
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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well GM actually rates/lists that alternator at 200amps. So I don't know if he actually redid anything for you, or he just said he did *shrug*
AC Delco are the people that underrate/actually rate the alternator... it's like HP, everyone has a diff number =)

Tomorrow, i'm going to walk out of one of the stores here with a CS144 + a 3wire GM pigtail. If it works, i'll post everything required to do it. If not, then i'll return it and get an OE replacement. No problem, just want info for everyone.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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REally, it sounds like a CS144 at 140 amps is jsut fine for most purposes. I think our stock units pump out like 90. So the only real difference (besides your custom internals) is the wiring harness?
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by crappled
If it works, i'll post everything required to do it. If not, then i'll return it and get an OE replacement. No problem, just want info for everyone.
Good man. BTW, I love your write-ups!
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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well, whatever it's rated at, it's better than stock. along with being $200 cheaper than Toyotas (50 cheaper than reman'ed) it's output is ATLEAST 50amps higher.

All GM pages say 200 amps for the 144, all ac delco catelogues or whatever list it at 140.

Tell ya what, i'll get the damned thing tested too. happy? =)
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Good man. BTW, I love your write-ups!
no, you're suppose to say 'damned n00bs, they don't know ****'

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y/w, been there and done that only goes so far. I like having stuff to look at...
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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As a side note, doing a hig-output Alt. should should probably be accomapnied with using larger gauge wire for the main connections from Alt<->Chassis<->Battery
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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well, you can go your route too I guess, just don't even think about cutting into your factory plug... were you saying you were going to make a plug that adapted from the GM alt to the toyota plug?
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