Chasing EGR error
#1
Chasing EGR error
'91 2wd pickup. 3.0 6cyl
Truck is new to me. I'm getting code 71. Reset, drive again, get code again. I've tested the EGR valve by sucking on the vacuum hose while at idle. Resistance is felt; valve actuates and engine dies. According to standard advice, that's a pretty good hint that the valve is OK.
Next, I replaced all vacuum tubes related to EGR. Lots of 3mm and one larger one. Still getting the code.
Before I spend a bunch of money on parts, what could be next steps? Any way to test the temp gauge that is in the intake side of the EGR valve? Any way to test the VSV switch that the EMC controls?
Truck is new to me. I'm getting code 71. Reset, drive again, get code again. I've tested the EGR valve by sucking on the vacuum hose while at idle. Resistance is felt; valve actuates and engine dies. According to standard advice, that's a pretty good hint that the valve is OK.
Next, I replaced all vacuum tubes related to EGR. Lots of 3mm and one larger one. Still getting the code.
Before I spend a bunch of money on parts, what could be next steps? Any way to test the temp gauge that is in the intake side of the EGR valve? Any way to test the VSV switch that the EMC controls?
#3
Here's most of what you want to know: http://web.archive.org/web/201204061...77exhaustg.pdf
Not mentioned in the FSM is ... crud. The output (exhaust gases) from the EGR valve goes to a long tube extending into the plenum. Over time, the plenum can fill up with "crud," mostly from the PCV system. If there is enough crud the tube can be blocked. It is smaller in diameter than the hole in the plenum, so if you have trouble pulling it out its coated.
Not mentioned in the FSM is ... crud. The output (exhaust gases) from the EGR valve goes to a long tube extending into the plenum. Over time, the plenum can fill up with "crud," mostly from the PCV system. If there is enough crud the tube can be blocked. It is smaller in diameter than the hole in the plenum, so if you have trouble pulling it out its coated.
#4
Right...I have that diagram.
If the plenum insert was clogged, then the test of the EGR valve would fail, I think. Adding vacuum to the valve causes exhaust gas to flow into the plenum, which stalls the engine at idle.
Still...I'm going to pull it and take a look.
I'll be testing the temp sensor next.
If the plenum insert was clogged, then the test of the EGR valve would fail, I think. Adding vacuum to the valve causes exhaust gas to flow into the plenum, which stalls the engine at idle.
Still...I'm going to pull it and take a look.
I'll be testing the temp sensor next.
#6
I don't have a 91 FSM in front of me, so not sure on actual testing specifics/parameters, but I believe you won't get any continuity unless sensor element is heated to XXX degrees. EGR is disabled on a cold start engine.
Last edited by Jimkola; Nov 10, 2023 at 10:08 AM.
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#8
Try plugging in a 15k ohm resistor to see if that clears the code. That's not a long-term fix (well, for some folks it apparently is) but it will help you rule out other problems. The sensor is ~$200.
#9
#10
Final word on this: I put in a 10k resistor and the check engine light stops. I tested my temp sensor and a known-good one to be sure my procedure is correct. Mine is dead, for sure. The good one shows all the right resistance numbers.
I'm going to get a new temp sensor.
I'm going to get a new temp sensor.
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