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Turning brakes instead of locker...?

Old May 27, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Turning brakes instead of locker...?

I'm curious to hear what you guys think about installing turning brakes instead of a locker. That way you could give 100% power to the tire with the most traction, by locking the opposite wheel.

Good idea? Bad?
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Bad.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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I wouldn't call it a bad idea.

I had toyed with that idea a while back. The problem with that setup
is that you can't have both wheels spinning at once. Sure, you can
tranfer power to the other side, but have both wheels in motion would be
more desirable.

I have been trying to find a way to incorperate a cutting brake into my rig
along with a locker. I like the technology and the ideaology behind the
system, I just have to believe that in most situations, a locker would be
superior.

The one advantage I see is that, if you are mechanically inclined, you could
install a turning brake on your daily driver, where the ratchet locker would
be an annoyance, for much cheaper than the cost of an air or e-locker
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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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i think the rock race guys use them
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Old May 27, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nix4x4
I wouldn't call it a bad idea.

I had toyed with that idea a while back. The problem with that setup
is that you can't have both wheels spinning at once. Sure, you can
tranfer power to the other side, but have both wheels in motion would be
more desirable.

I have been trying to find a way to incorperate a cutting brake into my rig
along with a locker. I like the technology and the ideaology behind the
system, I just have to believe that in most situations, a locker would be
superior.

The one advantage I see is that, if you are mechanically inclined, you could
install a turning brake on your daily driver, where the ratchet locker would
be an annoyance, for much cheaper than the cost of an air or e-locker
Installing turning brakes is fairly easy. Routing brake lines is about as hard as it gets.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 05:12 AM
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How are you going to work them? A split pedal? Hand controls?

Only on the rear axle, or the front too?

My $0.02 is that it seems awfully complicated and adds more stuff to a critical system that you for damn sure don't want failing on the road!
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Old May 28, 2008 | 07:00 AM
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Not sure if it's a good or bad idea... but I wonder if you couldn't use these:

https://www.yotatech.com/50540688-post29.html

Wouldn't require additional lines, and it locks/ unlocks the brakes solid at the flip of a switch.

You'd just have to split the main brake line, and then install one solenoid for each wheel.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tc
How are you going to work them? A split pedal? Hand controls?

Only on the rear axle, or the front too?

My $0.02 is that it seems awfully complicated and adds more stuff to a critical system that you for damn sure don't want failing on the road!
I would only use it on an axle with disc brakes.

I'd use one of these




If it is set up correctly it won't fail.

Again it's just an idea.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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I used a push pull style like the one Kaleb pictured when I was building Baja Bugs in my younger days. It would work great in the sand and the bugs were a very light vehicle, not sure how well it would work on a heavier vehicle.

Rear axle would be about the only way to too it, I would think the stress on the front components would be too much.

from your avatar did you get the idea from the Sand rail guys down at Sand Lake?

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Old May 28, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by norcalsvx
i think the rock race guys use them
Only on individual axles to do digs. Not for differencial fraud

They use this old fashion style of locking the rear wheels togeather using a locker
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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdropzone
I used a push pull style like the one Kaleb pictured when I was building Baja Bugs in my younger days. It would work great in the sand and the bugs were a very light vehicle, not sure how well it would work on a heavier vehicle.

Rear axle would be about the only way to too it, I would think the stress on the front components would be too much.

from your avatar did you get the idea from the Sand rail guys down at Sand Lake?
My dad has a sand rail...with turning brakes...
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