1) Do you insure them?
2) Is flat towing ok? (if the rig will have a spooled rear)
3) How much does a trailer weigh? (Big enough just to hold a tracker/sammi)

Gracias.

 

1. Yes, at the least you'll need the AZ minimum insurance if you keep it registered- and want to use it on Forest Service roads/trails, or in transit from trails like Lake Pleasant to Crown King.

The SloYota has full coverage since it sees pavement too- and I'm considering a stated value policy since the cost of the parts in the rig is WAY more than it's worth.

2. Flat tow w/ a full spool? Not unless you put in a full floater rear w/ locking hubs.

This was an option I considered prior to buying a trailer. The cost of the full floater kit was about $750.00. My brand new Carson trailer was $1150.00 + Tax. I prefer the trailer for it's versatility and ability to get home a rig that's broken down- either mine or a buddy's. If you flat tow, a broken rig might not be towable........

3. My 14' weighs 1800 Lb. and has a gross weight limit of 7600 Lbs. The rig weights 4600 w/ all the junk on it now-

Last, but not least, I can generally tow the rig faster than I can drive it. The 7.4L GMC tows the rig fine at AZ legal speeds- I set the cruz control at 78 MPH, about 10 MPH faster than the toy truck likes to go

later

 

can't tow a sami and a trailer with the runner

 

.......u sure?

Max towing is 5000 lbs.

What's the lightest trailer you can get? That'll fit a sammi/tracker/sidekick?

 

and another insurance thing-

At least w/ my State Farm Auto insurance on the tow rig extends the liability coverage to damaged caused by the object being towed. It does NOT cover the contents on or in the trailer.
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Your 'Runner will tow a trailer OK, it's just not an optimal rig to do it with. Uphill grades will be slow going, and you'll be on the brakes a lot more going downhill. Even with trailer brakes, it might have the tendancy to wag the runner a bit. Your Sammy will prolly be alot lighter than my exo'd P/U, and that will help. I run a single axle w/ electric brakes on a tandem axle trailer- it might be worth the extra $$$ to get both axles w/ brakes for better control.

I've got a big block 3/4 ton that weights 6500LB, and I can feel the difference in both the stability and braking over our 5.3L Yukon. The wind really effects the lighter Yukon-

later

 

you can do it but the runner is going to take a beating .. I think 3500 lbs is about as good as you can get and still have pick up, brake safely, wear and tear on truck. don't forget to get a tranny cooler

 

if you are hellbent on a trailer, i would get an aluminum one.

if you are going to use a spool in the rear, you could always put the rear end up on a dolly

 

yea shahzad is right, I will kill my rig.

Looks like I"m gonna have to wait till I graduate b4 doin anything hardcore. Thanks for the replies.

 

the only possible option you have is to get one of those dolly's where the front end (or in your case, back end) goes up on to it, and then the other side rolls on the ground. That thing can't weigh more then a 1000 lbs, and your sammy is another 2000 lbs (I'm guessing). That puts you under the limit of reasonable

 

you change your mind more than Brian!

 

it's sad..........I know.

but he changes his mind more. My mind is torn between auto-x and wheeling.

 

my tacoma will pull a samuari and a 16ft carhauler with a fully loaded toolbox and a winch like theres almost nothing back there, i can set the cruise at around 80 and go for it, mabey its differnt on runners, i dunno, but a quick question, why cant you flat tow with lockers?
another option is to get a tow dolly, but instead of turning it backwards, run it straight and get rear wheel dollys to go along with it.

 

You get a lot of different opinions on flat towing, but basicly there are a couple "issues" with it in general.

As I mentioned earlier, I can trailer the rig faster than it will get down the road. 5.29 gears, 35" tires, and a thrashed rig make driving over 65 a stretch. The dual t'cases don't like hyway driving- they get pretty warm. The rear diff gets freakin' hot on trips over 200 miles. Even if it was being flat towed with the d'shaft disconected, the rear diff is still turning some high RPM's.

A hard locker (spool or welded) obviously allows no differential action when turning. Some guys say it tends to really push the rear of the tow vehicle when cornering. Others report no problems........kinda wonder if the weight of the tow rig makes a difference in that.

The other reported problem is with Auto Tranny's being back driven thru the t'case- seems like a non-issue to me if the t'case is in nuetral. Some t'cases don't get lubed properly either, and that can be cured by removing the d'shaft.

later

 

well then all i can get from that is flat towing short distances is not a big deal but longer distances are. seince all my towing will never be over 100 miles, then theres no problem for me.


later
wade

 

Your Runner should be able to handle towing a sammi on a trailer. Hell a guy on pirate tows his sammi, with another sammi.

Lets say your trailer weighs in at 1500. then you have a sammi. I would assume that for a while it would still have stock axles, and probobally tires in the 33" area. TOPS this sammi will weigh in at 2500 pounds. You are at ~4K pounds. yes, hills will prove to be a challenge, and to keep it safe you should keep the speed down. Just remember, you are towing, not racing.