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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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BIGGEST Shackles EVER!!!!!

just wanting to see what are the biggest shackles people are running in the front of their rigs!!! i have heard that you dont want to go bigger than 2 inches of lift but i was thinkin of goin 3 inches of lift on my 1st gen! anyone got any wisdom!
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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get springs. Long you would need shackles that are 5" longer than stock to get 3" of lift, and thats startin to get in the scary suspension catagory.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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what do you think would happen tho. would it be hella squirrly on road? i would only probly run it for a few months!

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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I had an International scout II that had some very long shackles on it when I bought it, must have been about 5 inches. It was very very squirly. I would not recommend anything much longer than factory.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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I dunno, my truck isnt squirly at all. I say bigger the shackles the better.







*seriously, not my rig, and shackles upfront change the caster angle, so you can't really go very big otherwise you mess up your caster bad which is dangerous.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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That truck has stock length shackles lol. Its the Welding abortioon above it that makes that one scary.

And yes, longer shackles will change your pinion angle which is very bad. Toyotas front axle shackles are on the backside of the axle, so it will point the pinion towards the ground.

Jeeps benefit from longer shackles, since their shackles are in the front thus pointing the pinion up towards the Tcase.

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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WTF!!!!???!?!?!?!? ....PLEASE tell me that guy doesnt actually drive that rig anywhere...thats worse than having blocks in the front...damn..thats hella scary
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Holy crap. Tires are kinda weenie for all that room. He needs the new 54" boggers. All I have to say is amazing!!
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 05:17 AM
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I've run 3.5" longer than stock shackles up front for years with no pinion or caster angle issues. I did that partly to counter the effects of a 2.5" front spring hanger drop up front. Shackles are braced and work fine on- and off-road:



- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspe...ideBodyShackle
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...ringHangerDrop

Of course w/o the front hanger drop, you would be seeing about 1 degree of pinion and/or caster angle changer per extra inch of shackle length:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...es.shtml#FAQ12
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
Jeeps benefit from longer shackles, since their shackles are in the front thus pointing the pinion up towards the Tcase.
well, at least until you loose all caster and your steeringwheel doesn't return to center.... :o



like everyone else said... couple inches above stock is all you want. the longer the shackle the more lateral movement your springs will move. SCARY!

Al
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by drew303
I dunno, my truck isnt squirly at all. I say bigger the shackles the better.







*seriously, not my rig, and shackles upfront change the caster angle, so you can't really go very big otherwise you mess up your caster bad which is dangerous.


BTW looks to me hes not running big shackles but huge drop brakets

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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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well, at least until you loose all caster and your steeringwheel doesn't return to center.... :o
Well thats perfect then! Jeeps that don't drive straight for guys who dont live straight!
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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ya i dont like the way that truck looks thats just wtf
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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I think he wants to drive through the ocean or somthing
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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dude he can go through that big ass puddle that i killed my truck in
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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You can get a set of shims for the front axle when you put in a longer shackle to correct the pinion angle. I had 6 degree shims in my 84 when i went 3 inches longer in the front but i also had 4 inch springs.
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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do you put the shims underneath your leaf springs?
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Ya, you put them between the spring and the axle with the tall part to the front and it will turn your axle back up.
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