My 84 runner has BFG A/T on it now and I think they suck. This truck is farm/trail driven 99% of the time. We are in mud more than anything and they just don't have the grip. We don't get much snow, but they're not good in that either. They are fine in grass or loose dirt but what tire isn't. Will not buy another set of BFG A/T ever unless they drastically change this tire design.

 

I don't stick up for anyone just because I want to, or because of what "grade" I am in. I stick up for a person when they are right, and especially if they are being picked on. It's that simple.

And you nitpicking about grammer isn't part of a pissing contest???
You continuing the pissing contest is just as bad.

Unless I didn't read back far enough, I didn't see where TOYOTA1 called you any other name except maybe "noob". And even then, it doesn't appear that he was specifically talking about you.

You can agree to disagree all you want to. But a person that disagrees with fact is wrong, plain and simple.

I know the majority isn't always right, but they are right in this situation.

An idiot is someone that doesn't know something, yet they think they do know, regardless of the facts. That definition certainly seems to apply to you. That's what I'm calling you.

 

Okay man, you sleep better at night because I'm an idiot. Fact is that my tire has the same tread depth on the left edge, the right edge and at the center so it is wearing evenly with 50 PSI.

The idiot is stepping out of this thread...

 

Here's an intersting link: http://www.justtires.com/services/ti...fications.html

This link says: “MAX LOAD SINGLE 2623 LBS AT 65 PSI COLD” indicates the maximum load rating of the tire and corresponding minimum cold inflation pressure when used in a dual configuration."

I'm sure you aren't running duals at the maximum load rating...

 

Here's another one from the government angency that regulates tires that is more clear: http://http://dpxml.verizon.net/_1_2WCBURT049YKCZD__vzn.isp/clickit/search?r_aid=D5D4B846DCF04C0AB14C9B6F74593E60&r_eo p=8&r_sacop=7&r_spf=0&r_cop=main-title&r_snpp=4&r_spp=3&qqn=fKTRsGBJ&r_coid=239138& rawto=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/TireSafety/ridesonit/brochure.html

It says: "Maximum Permissible Inflation Pressure
This number is the greatest amount of air pressure that should ever be put in the tire under normal driving conditions."

Going by the exact wording, this is the absolute maximum. It doesn't say that this is what you should run.

 

And yet another: http://dpxml.verizon.net/_1_2WCBURT0..._sidewall.html

This one says: "Max. Load Dual kg (lbs) at kPa (psi) Cold
This information indicates the maximum load and tire pressure when the tire is used as a dual, that is, when four tires are put on each rear axle (a total of six or more tires on the vehicle)."



Max. Load Single kg (lbs) at kPa (psi) Cold
"This information indicates the maximum load and tire pressure when the tire is used as a single."

Again, it says MAXIMUM tire pressure at maximum load, not RECOMMENDED tire pressure for the vehicle under normal load and/or use.

And what proof do you have??? Give up yet???

Oh yea, I see you gave up before I was able to post 3 forms of proof that you are wrong. Looks like you didn't want to be proven wrong.

 

I don't really care what pressure anyone runs at. As long as its not going to blow out infront of me, I'm fine.

 

I've been on here for almost 5 years (and i have 22 years of driving/vehicle experience) and I very much agree with everything William has posted.

If you think 50psi is safe tire pressure for everyday driving you really should do some research and if you find others or info that says it's safe or prudent then post up some credible info and educate instead of attacking another member's grammar to avoid the points trying to be made.


If you have nubbies at 50psi and 25k miles you are having uneven wear issues period,that's a proven fact right there and nobody on here will dispute that with any of us.

BTW,how old are you and how many years do you have driving experience?

 

I'm 28 so I guess that would give me 12 years driving experience. I also have been riding dirtbikes since I was 12 and I put about 15,000 miles a year on a streetbike as well as running it at the track a few times a year. I'm not talking about a drag strip either. If it has wheels I've been riding it or driving it ever since I was able. I am not half as stupid as some of you in this thread seem to think. I'm not going to continue to argue the point. I'll take the 100K + miles that I will get out of these BFG's running at 50 PSI. You guys run what you want and I'll run what I want. If I have a catastrophic blowout I'll be the first to post up pics and admit I was a complete tard.

 

Oh yay, this thread went from almost useful to full on drama lounge fodder.


And just to stay on topic, I run my BFG TA's at 35 psi, and I'm getting close to 15K, and they are wearing extremely well, thank you. A little chunked from wheeling on these sharp rocks around here, but they're nice and even...

So there.

By the way, I'm thinking about filling my tires with water instead of air. I think it will make the truck handle much nicer...

 

thanks for the grammar lesson. although grammar isn't really my concern on yt. my concern is learning more about my trucks. and learning from other people that have problems with theres! so no need to get mad over your tire pressure. if you want your tires to go bald in the middle that's ok with me. sounds like you need to go let off some steam! about 20psi worth

 

Can I get a ?

 

i have 31x10.5 wrangler AT/S i think they are a grate tire. grate in mud and snow they ware a little fast but thats about the only complant i have. i love the look af the bfgs tho. when its time for some new meats i think im goin with the bfg mud terains.

 

Yea, and it was partially my fault. I got a bit irate and shouldn't have.

But on the other hand, not only are there are some very knowledgable and well experienced people on here that posted to this topic, but also a very large majority of all posters agree that the maximum safe pressure isn't what should normally be run. Not only that, I posted links as to what the defination of the maximum pressure is.

It's hard for me to stay calm when someone disagrees with established fact and educated opinion. But I still shouldn't have said what I said.

 

How you responded was wrong but i totally agree with what you said. Some people just cant handle bein disagreed with.

 

I'm running 33/10.5 BFG A/T just because the are the only nonaggressive tire in that size that I found used, do love the mpg's. For serious stuff I've got a set of M/T's.

If any one wants to run 50psi or 25psi I really don't care after all it's a free country and those are your tires. Don't change my tire pressure and I won't change your's

 

I appreciate not only your point of view, but also the maturity to post an apology, even if you were only partially to blame. I like the idea of a forum where if tempers periodically flare, they as quickly are extinguished and we can go back to just being a bunch of Toyota nuts.

Now, let's get back to the original silly topic about BFG's being bad tires.

(Cause I love mine... neener neener.... )

 

The ATs are just fine in serious stuff. Just not mud. I have severely used mine. They've held up fine and done extremely well.

 

Neither of those two BFG's do real well out here (S. Arizona), in the "serious" stuff (read: big rocks, often really sharp). Their sidewalls rip easy (compare to some of the other rubber available).
MT/R's for me when the current AT's wear out (which is very soon now). No more hydroplaning for me....




Fred

 

I have yet to encounter a situation out here where my tire selection (BFG A/T) was my sole limiting factor. Are there better rock crawling tires? No doubt. But they probably don't cruise at 65/70 as well.

Its a compromise tire. Works well for me. And evidently for Ike too. Thankfully we all have choices: to each his own.