It's apples and oranges unless you are comparing tires of the same width. Fat BFGs are probably going to hydroplane in a situation where pizza cutters would hold the road well.

 

any tire brand new is gonna suck until there broken in and time for the rubber to harden and set

 

I don't think that is entirely true. Yes, perhaps a break in period, but hard rubber gives less traction because on a microscopic level, the rubber needs to conform to the surface of the road. Softer tires don't last as long so tire makers must compromise between longevity and grip.

 

My BFG AT's are a 33x9.50.

They don't hydroplane, but my 12.50's did all the time, same tire.

They see serious offroad use.

I love them.

I plan on trading them in for the BFG KM2 once it comes out in a size I can use.

People usually raise some eyebrows on the harder trails, until they see TC's tires!!! LOL

 

All tires hydroplane but it's at what speed they do it at.

 

I ran 31 x 10.5 BFG AllTerrains on my Surf for close to 2 years. I loved them. You have to keep in mind that it is an ALL terrain tire. It is designed to provide "decent" traction in a multitude of conditions. As far as traction in snow I think they worked great. (I'm talking about snow on the roads, less than a foot)
I will admit that they are awful in the mud, but better than the average stock light truck allseason tire.
If you want a tire to excell in a specific condition you need to invest in a tire designed for that particular application.

 

I still think after putting a ton of miles on BFGs and just three years and 35k on my Nittos the TGs are a better overall tire for a DD that will see the same trails as the BFGs. Nittos don't harden up like BFGs hence a few less miles but the overall street performance is much better and safer. Plus the cost of a TG is a bit cheaper than BFGs. I do think the BFGs have the edge in preventing a sidewall tear and I might trust them a tad better for a weekend warrior but on the street the Nittos simply a better tire for wet handling and dry grip.

I'd like a few more people get real experience on both and throw their opinions out since most people just have run BFGs and very little else.

 

I agree. That's why I'm pleasantly surprised by my BFG's. They continue to improve, especially in the wet. I'm at the 9K mark and they're better than ever. The VSC and ABS used to engage at ridiculously low speeds. Now it's very difficult to get the warning lights and bells going. Completely opposite to my experience with any other brand, but my off-road tire experience is limited to these and Nitto TG's.

I'd now say the BFG's are on par with the Nittos.

 

I'm sorry but you are just wrong. I have been running my 32x11.50 FG A/T's at 50 PSI since the day I put them on. 25000 miles later and they still have the rubber nubbies on parts of the tread. I have them rotated every 5-6000 miles and they are wearing completely even.

 

50psi is still too high and the nubbies are still there because they are overfilled since at 25k you should have nothing on the edges and that's where I'm presuming your nubbies are. They aren't wearing even if the nubbies are gone and parts of the tire.

50psi is dangerous since the tire pressure will go even higher when heated up and your grip isn't that great either with hard tires.

 

^ X2! To each his own! I try to make my stuff last as long as possible!

But i bought my truck with the BFG's on them with 3X,000 miles on them, now they are past 40,000 and are still pretty good!

And everybody says they suck in mud. They arn't that bad, at least for me even with 40,000 miles on them

 

I am no where near wrong. You have the nubbies because your tires are overfilled. The entire tread is supposed to contact the road. You shouldn't have nubbies after just a few days of daily driving. Since you still have them, I can tell that your tires aren't wearing evenly.

Doesn't really matter though. Do what you want. Looks like you are about one of just a handful that run their tires that high. Everyone else in the world runs them at a reasonable pressure. To each his own.

 

I guess they make a habit of putting those unreasonable tire pressures on the sides of their tires because they have nothing better to do. I do realize that it's a maximum safe pressure but I don't see how it's unreasonable. If my tread measures the same depth at 3 different points on the tire then I say it's wearing even. I think your handful vs. everyone else in the world might change if you asked around and actually gathered some information because about half the people that I know running them run them between 45-50. Seems we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

Try the chalk test to find out for sure

 

30 psi?? i barely run that much on the street! try around 10lbs next time you go to the snow. difference is like night and day no matter what tire you have on!

 

agree 100%. theres alota noobs running to much pressure its amazing!

 

I agree. 50 PSI is too high, and if the little ribber nubs are present "on parts of the tread" it is because the tread is wearing unevenly. There's no other way you can have that without uneven wear.

Disagree all you want, but that's a fact.

The maximum safe pressure is by not necessarily the right pressure. The maximum pressure and maximum weight that is printed on the sidewall is there only to keep you from having a catostrophic failure.

Disagree all you want, but that is another fact.

I have found out that the pressures on the door sticker is generally the right pressure even if you are running bigger tires. But even then, do the chalk test to be sure.

And one more thing: If you inflate your tires at a lower altitude and then drive to a higher altitude, your pressure will go up. I've noticed this before on vacation, when I checked my pressures here in Florida near sea level and then went through the Rocky Mountains in Colorado on I-70.

With the altitude and heat combined (if I remember right), I gained 12 PSI. So then I would have 62 PSI instead of 50 PSI.

If I started out at the maximum safe limit in Florida and then went through Colorado, I would be taking a chance.

Go ahead, take chances if you want. But keep in mind that if you have a failure related to improper tire pressues, you may not be injuring or killing just yourself. You may injure or kill another driver.

 

Yea I guess us noobs running too much pressure must all be idiots compared to you veterans who've been here 2-3 months and can't spell worth a crap.

It's kind of silly that people here can't think something different without people resorting to calling them names. Usually forums encourage a difference of opinions and that's what makes them a valuable resource.

 

Just because someone has been on this website 2 or 3 months doesn't mean they are a beginner. I was driving or riding motorcycles and ATVs and off roading 20+ years before I was online.

Okay, so he spelled "alot of" "alota", and failed to capitalize two words, and failed to add an apostrophe before the "s" in there's.

That doesn't mean that he doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to tires.

It's pretty sad that you can't come up with any facts to prove him wrong, which causes you to resort to picking apart the grammer of his response.

Regardless, a difference of opinion in a forum doesn't change the facts about the subject being discussed.

 

About as sad as him resorting to name calling because I didn't agree with him and you having to stick up for him like we are in 6th grade. Like I said before, let's just agree to disagree. Just because I don't feel the same way as you do about tire pressure is no reason to get into a childish pissing contest.