It seems we have differing perceptions of what "basically the same" means


These are basically the same:




These are not (with the exception of construction):

 

The BFGs in the bottom pics are certainly more alike than the 2 top pics, and here's why:

Top pics: Different brands, different treads (the one on the right is certainly less aggresive), different carcasses, different trademarks. The only thing the same is that they are both all terrain tires.

Bottom pics: Same brand, same carcass, at least some (if not all) of the trademarks are the same.

Let's see: 3 sames versus 1 same. Not only that, but it looks to me like the tread on the BFG A/T would be better in mud than the other A/T.

Regardless, He did say "more meat" when he spoke of the M/T tread. So he did acknowledge the only noticable difference in the two tires.

 

To reward you for your unmatched level of inteligence and helping all of us understand your superior opinion, I have bought you a present....enjoy....

 

Thank you for your compliments, although all I was doing was defending someone else when it appeared that HE was attacked because of HIS opinion.

All this was because of what appeared to me to be a misunderstanding of what his intended meaning was.

And thank you for the gift, although I can't accept it. I already have plenty of guns, and they aim in the right direction...toward anyone who has the nerve to attack me.

 

 

you gotta be kidding. those pictures above are a perfect comparison.

those generals are just like the well-known BFG pattern. they most certainly are very much the same in tread design. The lug size, the siping, these tires are meant to be driven on pavement while still having the durability to be driven off pavement occasionally, like dirt roads and construction project lots.

The m/t tread is completely different, with no siping, and larger spacing between lugs, to easier clear dirt/mud accumulation, for heavy mud driving.

a/t's are a pavement tire you can take offroad with a fair degree of confidence. to expect more is to start kidding yourself. that's why they make m/t's.

this whole thread of people liking or disliking is such a ridiculous argument. a tire, even within the exact same brand, is going to behave differently based on size, vehicle, and specific terrain. so the dudes saying bfg's suck in mud, well, what type of mud, which size tire (9.5 or 12.5) and what truck, what GVWR, and what tire pressure? jeez i don't know why this old thread is still alive, or why i'm even posting except out of sheer boredom.

regarding tires, try something, if you like it, buy it twice, if not, try something else. its entirely too subjective. there's no reason to get hostile over it.

hey! everybody have a great holiday weekend! woohoo! monday off! (hope you do too)

 

Thank you.

And by the way, I wasn't attacking anybody. I did give him a little ribbing about the haul ass comment but, all I did was state my opinion and pose a question.

IMO, there are more attributes to a tire than carcass, manufacturer, and trademarks that make tires similar. Such as: tread design, driving characteristics on and off road, noise level, ride quality, ect. ect. ect.

I'd still like to see what Foskco87 has to say about tires hauling ass...

 

key word here " a/t " my opinion bfg a/t are a great "all terrain tire" they are the "best" at nothing.ive used them on all my plow trucks with great results, performance and wear.off road they do well also on all terrain types. they are not a specific purpose tire designed to be the best at one type of terrain. i believe the older bfg wore better than the newer ones and that can be a factor in thier performance as well. as for air pressure run what works for what your doing, i used to plow with 70 psi in a chevy s-10,go figure? also the climate your are in for your region is not the same else where, snow in newengland is not the same as snow in colorado.same for mud , ice , etc. thats my 2 cents worth if any one cares.

 

I fully agree. And probably the best A/T period, except maybe for some of the more recent designs that have come out since this thread was started.

I think much of the problem with those that don't like them is because of what their expectations are. If they expect them to excel in a situation where they aren't designed to excel in, then they are disappointed. All because of an UNREASONABLE expectation. Then they have the nerve to blame the tire. Or they blame the brand, never mind the fact that the brand probably has a tire that would suit their needs better.

 

This is what a worthless thread bump looks like.

 

I don't think lobukbuild's intention was to do a "thread bump". I think he just wanted to give his opinion. And his opinion certainly isn't worthless, it certainly was worth more than some I've seen.

 

It is pretty worthless to bring back a thread full of arguments about how some all terrains suck in the mud, especially since tires have changed so much in the time that this thread was being discussed. I can understand giving your opinion on something but when a thread is this old, its like giving an opinion on the election recount of 2000 and who you think won. Its done, its over with, everyone has an opinion but it doesn't really matter anymore nor does it really concern anyone. And that is all I am going to say, no need to keep putting this at the top.

 

I can't fully agree for 2 reasons: (1) The tire the thread is about is still being made with no changes, and (2) There's a good chance that someone may still want to come here to look for information to help them decide what to buy.

That's what sets this thread apart from almost 12 year old election results.

Have a nice day.

 

The Bfg A/t is NOT a mud tire.. They are actually a really good tire in snow and if you have the proper alignment and rotate them often. you will get ALOT of road miles on them.. However. The mud terrain go good in the snow and really dig in the mud and wear very good on the road as a mud tire. Bfg a/t is the way to go for tar baby or plow truck. if u got a lifted truck in the mud. get the Bfg M/t you will not be dissapointed.

 

I fully agree, although I don't recall anyone saying it is a mud tire. But I have experienced better mud performance with the BFG A/T than with any other A/T I've had (in Florida).

Anyway, thanks for your post on what is still a relevant topic about a currently made tire.

 

I've run both the Nitto AT's and the BFG AT's on 4runners. I preferred the Nitto's. However, for MT's I do prefer BFG over pretty much everything.

 

love my BFG A/T

 

BFG's at's are sick 4 seasons tires ,probably depend of how u drive but 5 of my friends got those on Ford Rangers and Chevy Canyon 2wd and 4wd and loved it, BUT u've to keep in head that it's not a winter tire, so drive safely on road.

 

Sweet, way to bump a worthless flame war.

 

maybe the tires are too big for the vehicle in order for you to get appropriate traction... I have 33x12x15 on a '91 wrangler and they do great... but then again, mostly for getting you out of sticky situations, not for doing heavy digging... I have got a set of 33" federal couragia mt on my 88 hilux... though mud terrains, they get great traction on the road, are rather quiet, dont ware poorly, and go great in the mud...