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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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Axle Relocation Q's

hey guys im thinking of putting in some axle relocation plates...the biggest i have found was only 1 inch...is that enought cause i was thinking of going 1.5 inches but wasnt sure if i can do that? i dont have hi-steer yet but probly will do them at the same time...thanks in advance guys!!!
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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I see you have 35's now - what size tire are you wanting to run?
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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Custom offset relocation plates:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...elocationPlate

Or just drill new holes in your spring perches to relocate the axle. Look at both perches as there are often extra holes on one perch already. If so, just match the offset and drill the other one to match. Likely will need an adjustable drag link to allow for the shorter steering box-steering arm length.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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i will probly run my 35's for a while but might go w/ some 36 12.5's later on.

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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Or just drill new holes in your spring perches to relocate the axle.
say if i was to move it say 3 inches(just a number) are there any down sides in doing this?
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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you DS won't be long enough...
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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i have an extended squared DS...should probly add that to my mods list!
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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when your relocating your axle just be sure to factor in the driveshaft length as mentioned above as well as the length of the steering shaft and possibly the brake lines. If your moving your axle forward and leaving the shocks in the same place you will gain "rake" or rather more caster angle. the more caster you have the more your vehicle will want to steer straight ahead. If your moving it back you will loose caster angle. this will increase your turning because of the shorter wheelbase and also make the vehicle easier to steer around, but less friendly to drive on the road.

hope this helps shed some light good luck
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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On a Toyota axle, the caster angle won't change if you keep the pinion angle the same, as it's all "fixed" in the housing.

3" seems like a lot, but I'm not a leaf spring expert.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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the biggest plate i can find are only 1 inch...im sure that will help but wanted to know if there were bigger ones or even if your supposed to go bigger.how much of a difference do you guys think and inch forward will do for rubbing aproach angle and such..cause if that does the job ill spend the 25 bucks for the plates!
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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did you ever move yer axle? how did it turn out? im thinkin about movin mine forward 1.5-2inches so i can clear some 39.5s without havin to tub the cab much. to do that im gonna be movin my steering box & adding a flat pitman arm and lengthin my DS.
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Originally Posted by ChickN
the biggest plate i can find are only 1 inch...im sure that will help but wanted to know if there were bigger ones or even if your supposed to go bigger.how much of a difference do you guys think and inch forward will do for rubbing aproach angle and such..cause if that does the job ill spend the 25 bucks for the plates!
Can make plates to custom offsets as well. I think the Toyota front perch would allow about a 2" offset via a relocation plate:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...elocationPlate

You can do the same thing by simply drilling new center pin holes in the spring perch itself. There is often a hole or two offset about 1.5" on one or both perches.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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I have hi-steer, will the plates make my leaf springs hit the tie rod?
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by swapped89
I have hi-steer, will the plates make my leaf springs hit the tie rod?
Measure and see. If the current spring to tie rod clearance is less than 3/8" - 1/2", then yes they will. If you have more than 1/2" of clearance, then no. Advantage of re-drilling the spring perches is that you add no height to the perch (assuming you can drill 5/8" holes in the perch).
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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If you dont have histeer and you move you axle forward your push/pull draglink will suffer you will find you can turn good one way and not the other. You should just do it right and high steer and move axle forward at the same time. Be careful though if you plan on installing a Trailgear or marlin front springs that moves your axle forward again you may run into problems with your IFS gear box location.

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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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I am planning on movin the steering box forqward and using a flat pitman arm.I'm gonna see how much i can get out of the stock spring perches.
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