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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 05:14 PM
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This is gonna be fun to watch!
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 07:56 AM
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This is gonna be fun to watch!
I really hope you mean fun to watch as in wow big undertaking but it's going to be cool, and not fun to watch as in I can't wait to see this train wreck happen.
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Old Jun 28, 2015 | 07:12 AM
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Ok so the rest of the parts I need should be here in the next few days, the only thing I know I'm going to need will be longer bell housing bolts but I can grab them locally. Probably still going to be a few weeks before I get going on it but I'm ready.
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Old Jun 28, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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Wow! Somehow I missed the manual. There's only one problem I see. In the pictue of your tansmission you've only got one transfer case. I'm assuming the second one is in the pile of parts you're getting in the next few days.

That's pretty awesome though. Are you going through all the wiring or just going to live with the cel? There has got to be a way to fool the auto ecu into thinking there are still shift solenoids. Anyways, I'm excited for your project. Good luck.
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Old Jun 28, 2015 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jason in tn
I really hope you mean fun to watch as in wow big undertaking but it's going to be cool, and not fun to watch as in I can't wait to see this train wreck happen.
You know exactly which one and if you don't then it's gonna be even more fun 'cept I'm covering my eyes for all the scary parts!



(you got this....the cool big undertaking one of course!)
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Old Jun 29, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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Wow! Somehow I missed the manual. There's only one problem I see. In the pictue of your tansmission you've only got one transfer case. I'm assuming the second one is in the pile of parts you're getting in the next few days.

That's pretty awesome though. Are you going through all the wiring or just going to live with the cel? There has got to be a way to fool the auto ecu into thinking there are still shift solenoids. Anyways, I'm excited for your project. Good luck.
Just the one Tcase, unless of course you want to drop the coin for a "marlin tacobox " I will be happy to fit it in there lol.
I'm hoping to figure out how to get it done with out the CEL, I've been doing a ton of reading along with a buddy that is much better at electronic stuffs than I am to figure it out. At the moment my area does not require smog testing etc but I would like to do it as factory acting as possible.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by habanero
You know exactly which one and if you don't then it's gonna be even more fun 'cept I'm covering my eyes for all the scary parts!



(you got this....the cool big undertaking one of course!)
Thanks for the support hab it really means a lot.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 05:16 PM
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Thanks for the support hab it really means a lot.
You earned it.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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This is gonna be a good swap! Youll be bangin gears in no time!
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Old Jul 18, 2015 | 06:00 AM
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The fun starts today, hope to make some good progress. Post more later.
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Old Jul 18, 2015 | 11:04 AM
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I hope you dont melt. It is HOT outside. Even the ac in the shop is not helping much.
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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Ok so after two days in grueling July heat, I have a manual 3rd gen. I have to say I think getting the old trans out was as hard or harder than putting the new one in, but it's done for the most part.
I will do a full write up when I have a little more time and can sort through the pics. I've only got to drive it a couple miles so far (I had to get back to work) but the trans seems tight no weird noises and it makes the old girl a heck of a lot more fun to drive. Like I said more later, maybe I can get enough information out to help someone else.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 05:54 PM
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ok I finally have a few minutes and an actual key board so I wanted to post some info on how the manual swap went.
Ok to start, the auto trans and all that came with it were more than happy in their original home, everything faught us bell housing bolts, electrcal plugs everything, we had to pry it lose with a pry bar to break it lose from the block.the only stuff that came apart easy were the the interior parts, the console the shifter etc, there is a strap of metal in the floor thay seperates the shift levers that has to be cut out so I did that while I was inside[I meant to grab a pic of that but I forgot]. It took quite a bit longer than I expected but finaly it was out and on the floor.
we started reassembly with the new fly wheel and clutch assembly pilot bearing etc, that was all pretty straight forward and went smooth, wrestling the new trans and Tcase in was a bit of work but it finnaly dropped into place. contrary to what I had read online the auto crossmember slid rite into place with the new trans mount, a couple bell housing bolts and we called it a day.
Day two startws with finishing up the bell housing bolts. If your doing this swap you will need three longer bell housing bolts the rest will swap over from the auto. next came drive shafts, evry where I read said that I would need new shafts or atleast the front shaft from a manual truck, I did not have a new front shaft and we planned to just build a shorter shaft for the front but I decided to just test fit my old one and wala it fit just fine [bonus for me]. the dear shaft I decided to compensate for the difference with a 1 inch spacer from TG.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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Reassembly went smooth for the most part with a few hickups along the way. the first was trying to bolt the starter back in, we hunted for an hour for starter bolts before discovering that we had them all along but one of themm need to be a longer bolt to fit thru the manual bell housing. I was pleasently suprised to discover that the trans dust sheild from the auto fit the manual because I didnt have one.
we welded on a bracket to hold the soft line hard line union.
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not sure were the factory one is mounted but this spot seemed to be best for what I was working with.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 06:26 PM
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After finishing up evrything underneath we started on the pedal assembly and M/C etc.
I was supprised to see toyota had two perferated cut outs in the insulation on the fire wall and for the one bolt that goes into the dash support.
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the hardest part of this process was figureing out a way to lay out the holes as toyota put no dimples or any kind of marks for reference.
we desided to disassemble the cluth bucket to its most basic parts fit it under the dash and mark for the hole, we drill pilot holes from the inside and then finished up from under the hood. the brake pedal was a matter of diconecting the push rod remove the pivot bolt remove pedal and reverse the procedure.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 06:31 PM
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You were pretty darned close with your soft line/hard line union bracket....it's right above where you've mounted it, on the body next to the hard lines where it angles upwards from the floor pan doomahickey area you've got pictured there.

Excellent work and what an undertaking!

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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by habanero
You were pretty darned close with your soft line/hard line union bracket....it's right above where you've mounted it, on the body next to the hard lines where it angles upwards from the floor pan doomahickey area you've got pictured there.

Excellent work and what an undertaking!
thanks hab, I probably should have mounted that bracket to the body instead of the frame now that I think about it but hopfully there wont be a lot of flex the way it is.
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 04:59 PM
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thanks hab, I probably should have mounted that bracket to the body instead of the frame now that I think about it but hopefully there wont be a lot of flex the way it is.
You're sure in the ballpark.
I only know because I went out and looked right after I saw your pic....curiosity. If you ever want pics from either the 96 or the 99 you know where to find me.

Gotta love a stick.
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 05:02 PM
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at this point the wiring started. my buddy and fellow club member Andy Ridge was in charge of this step.
I found this thread http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...es-nuthin.html and this is what he based the wiring on, I also got a lot of other usefull info from this thread. Im not going to lie here folks Im not sure what all was done, Andy was confident after looking over the thread and checking some wiring diagrams that it should work and after getting it together everything seems to be working as it should. Andy did an awesome job and the new harness looks factory.
one part of the wiring involved getting the ADD to work, we [as in the thread above] decided to use the switch in the original Tcase shift knob for this purpose. this set up gives me a very basic version of 2wd low range unless this button is engaged. Im really happy with how this all worked out.
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by habanero
You're sure in the ballpark.
I only know because I went out and looked right after I saw your pic....curiosity. If you ever want pics from either the 96 or the 99 you know where to find me.

Gotta love a stick.
hab I have been going thru your thread a bunch lately trying to find out how things are supposed to look lol. Im loving the trans so far, I kinda wondered if it was what I really wanted to do until I started driving it.
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