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Old 09-16-2003, 07:56 PM
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22R (E) Engine...How Many Miles??

Hello guys and gals...Just wondered how many miles you have on your 22R (22R-E) powered rig? I've owned three 22R powered vehicles and consider the 22R family of engines to be among the best quality that Toyota ever produced (even if it is a bit under powered). You guys have a great site here and I look forward to being a member of it.
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a buddy of mine has a 1980 pickup, assuming he has a 22r motor, he has 425,000 on his
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Mine has 218,000 miles and it is still running strong. No problems with it. (knock on wood).
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Originally posted by kwando
Mine has 218,000 miles and it is still running strong. No problems with it. (knock on wood).
218k indicated here as well, but closer to 230k actual due to mismatched tires/gears. 10k on second motor.
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200k then i traded it in. it ran like new, never a single puff of smoke.
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but what's the longest anyone's gone without any major engine work.. other than having valves adjusted ofcourse...?
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140,000 here
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I work in the Toyota service industry and I have one customer with a '93 2WD 22R-E that has 350K and the engine has never been apart (not even for timing chain)! Makes me hope that my rig (with 145K) has a lot more life left! Thanks for the replies.

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I got 153k ok mine, only thing major thats been done is the timing chain.
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Yup, the timing chain seems to be the weak link if there is one on this engine. I did mine at 124K, before the guides broke loose and ended up in the oil pan. It was more of a preventative measure than a needed repair. I also replaced the valve stem seals while I had the head off. Too bad Toyota didn't stick with the double-row setup in the '81 - '83 22R...

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Originally posted by Toyo22R-E
Too bad Toyota didn't stick with the double-row setup in the '81 - '83 22R...
The double row chain does nothing for the strength of the timing chain because the chain isn't what breaks, the guides are the weak link and DOAracing has a solution to fix that. The double row only hurts gas mileage.

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I beg to differ with you because the single row chains do stretch, and I have even seen one or two break (although this is VERY rare and results in bent intake valves). You are absolutely right about the neoprene guides being the weakest link in the single row setup. When I referred to the double-row setup, that included steel-backed guides, much more durable than the neoprene guides. I feel the loss in fuel economy would be minimal for the added strength. Just my opinion though....
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kilometers

My 95 has 185,468km

Guys in our club have up to 346,000 on their 22re's
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I have about 181,000 on my '89. Just replaced the original starter. I did the timing chain a while back. I had the front main seal go bad, but that is about all that has gone wrong with the motor.
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My 86 4Runner has 198k mi. on it. It still passes smog no problem. It has been apart. About 4 years ago my wife overheated it and cracked the head. A friend and I replaced the head, other than that it hasn't had any major work done to it.
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With 22RE engine on 1988 4Runner.. At around 218.,000 a rattle appeared. I was advised that camshaft was getting loose due to worn out bearings, and that it was cheaper and better to replace the motor than to fix it, as damage was already being done to other components. So I drove it another year, with the rattle getting worse. AT around 228,000 camshaft broke loose. I crawled for another 5 miles to the driveway at 10 miles per hour with the engine rattling more than 10 tractor trailer diesels put together, blowing out smoke. Amazingly, it made it. Great engine... Not everyone can count on 300k repair free, but 200k at the very least without major repairs is almost assured. On the other hand, I knew someone whose 22RE blew at 146,000.. so depends on your luck too.
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My 92' pickup 22re had a 150k when it got wrecked... only thing done to it was a new battery. My 87 Runner 22re has a 139k and I plan on it going well over 200k, maybe 300k. This motor runs strong and I have had it apart just for mods. At a 135k the rings and cylinder's looked new!!! I love what you do for me! TOYOTA!!
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Originally posted by Toyo22R-E
I beg to differ with you because the single row chains do stretch, and I have even seen one or two break (although this is VERY rare and results in bent intake valves). You are absolutely right about the neoprene guides being the weakest link in the single row setup. When I referred to the double-row setup, that included steel-backed guides, much more durable than the neoprene guides. I feel the loss in fuel economy would be minimal for the added strength. Just my opinion though....
The only broken chains I've seen or heard of have been a result of running with broken timing guides (which usually includes a taco'd timing cover at that point) or seized camshafts. Dual-row chains wear and "stretch" just like single-row, there is no difference there. Yes, back when duals were used Toyota was also using metal backed guides, that's where DOA's replacement metal backed guides come in.

In my opinion, if a single row chain is capable of snapping a camshaft in half at the middle bearing journal (common result of poor upper end oiling), then it is more than enough. I just hate seeing people needlessly spending money on kits like LCE's to convert a newer 22 to dual when it won't help them any.
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210,000 on current truck, 180,000 on an 81 truck, and 342,000 on my Celica. Current truck may not be original engine, bought it used and don't know, other two vehicles were all original with no major work done. Think the 81 was actually a 20r engine.
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my 85 runner gots 150000
my old 82 p/u had 180000


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