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Old Sep 23, 2016 | 10:28 AM
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that sucks Ed, at least you made it home in one piece.
I was going to do a plate bumper on the 94 with out a upper hoop but I will be adding one just got cases like this.
I have hit 3 or 4 deer in my 30+ years of driving, knock on wood, none of the damage has been too bad...
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Old Sep 23, 2016 | 11:27 AM
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Ouch!!! You have had some bad luck lately with trucks. You might be able to get a jack and some wood and push the core support out. If you have to replace the core support, it is not that bad of a job. I had to on my 86. I just bolted mine in and have no intentions of welding it back together. If you do have to replace the core support, get a spot weld cutter. It is a drill bit that makes cutting the spot welds easy. Dont try and drill them out. Harbor Freight has them for like $6. It looks bad and you will need to get several parts, but I dont think it is near as bad as it looks. The worse part I think is getting the inner fender lined back up.

Your trailer is looking great. Might want to consider some Mad Max bumper for the deer. I nearly hit one a few days ago. Not the way I like to go deer hunting.
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I pulled a core support incase I need to replace mine. I did it without a spot weld cutter and it was a long process. I sure hope I can bend my current one back into place as I'm not looking forward to swapping them.
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Old Sep 24, 2016 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dropzone
that sucks Ed, at least you made it home in one piece.
I was going to do a plate bumper on the 94 with out a upper hoop but I will be adding one just got cases like this.
I have hit 3 or 4 deer in my 30+ years of driving, knock on wood, none of the damage has been too bad...
Thanks Robb. Yeah I was glad that I made it home too. It was 11:30 at night on my way home from work and no cell signal, lol. When I lived in Yakima we rarely saw any deer unless it was in orchards or near corn fields, up here they are everywhere. I never hit one in my almost 30 yrs of driving until we moved here 4 yrs ago, now I've hit 2 deer and a cow in that short amount of time! Yeah I think I'm definitely going to do a upper hoop as well, I like the look without it, but the added protection would be worth it in the long run.

Originally Posted by GeoRoss
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I pulled a core support incase I need to replace mine. I did it without a spot weld cutter and it was a long process. I sure hope I can bend my current one back into place as I'm not looking forward to swapping them.
I'm hoping I can straighten my current one as well, but it doesn't look very promising. I think I will invest in the spot weld cutter if it comes to that.

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Old Sep 24, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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That sucks. My dad's 94 pickup took a deer head on and totalled it. He bought a 2016 taco to replace it and put a bull bar on first thing.
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 02:02 PM
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Well, was the deer OK? Did you whack that backstrap, take it home and toss it on the grille? Don't answer that.

Sorry for the news. Hope it's an easy fix. Les


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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 05:33 PM
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Crappy news, Ed!

I hope you get it fixed quick and easily!
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 92ehatch
That sucks. My dad's 94 pickup took a deer head on and totalled it. He bought a 2016 taco to replace it and put a bull bar on first thing.
Yeah it doesn't take much for the insurance companies to total a rig now days, lol. I'm sure if mine was new enough and had full coverage they would have totalled it.

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Well, was the deer OK? Did you whack that backstrap, take it home and toss it on the grille? Don't answer that.

Sorry for the news. Hope it's an easy fix. Les
Hey Les! I thought about it, but I was so pi$$ed off that I didn't turn around, lol. I need to hire you to build me one of those awesome tilt front ends like you have!!!

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Crappy news, Ed!

I hope you get it fixed quick and easily!
Thanks Tom...I'll have a post up in a few minutes with pics of my temporary Frankstein fix, lol.
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 08:41 PM
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Well did a little "body work" today.

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^^^Body work tools of choice

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^^^"before" pics of the damage...."after" pics below


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^^^I Frankenstein'D some temporary repairs out of parts I had laying around. Drivers side headlight bucket is modified off of a 79' ford F250. Its a mounted a little lower than stock, but works for now. The turn signal is old LED I had kicking around. Remounted my old chrome bumper after massaging some of the dents out of it with the 3lb sledge. Also had to replace the fan belt as it was twisted and frayed from rubbing against the fan shroud and driving it home like that. Luckily I had a spare. Total cost of Frankenstein repairs...$0. The 4runner will be resuming it's dd status tomorrow. I'll start collecting parts for real repair ASAP.

Updated replacement parts list:
■ hood
■ driverside fender
■ grille
■ headlight bezels
■ core support and inner fenders (I'm thinking about possibly building my own and making it all bolt in, might swap the battery and air box to opposite sides at the same time)
■ build a bumper and grille guard
■ turn signal
■ upgrade the brakes
■ upgrade the headlights
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 04:33 AM
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Really doesn't look bad. You did a pretty good job with the hood considering the fold it had
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 10:38 AM
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Yeah, I was pretty surprised at how much I was able to straighten the hood too. I had to cut out some of the inner structure to be able to hammer out the caved in part.
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The fender was a little harder to work with, it was so flimsy after pulling it forward with the come-along. I had to take a grinder and cut the fender to make the door gap bigger just to be able to open the door without creasing it.
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 08:16 PM
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Hey Buddy! Just trying to get caught up on your thread. Trailer is coming along nice!!

Sorry to hear about the Deer!! But I must say..... You really made it look pretty darn good with your "body work" tools!!!!

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Old Sep 29, 2016 | 08:13 AM
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Nice job with the initial repairs. I would add Deer Whistles to that list of yours, haha. Keep up the good work!
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Old Sep 29, 2016 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizler00
Hey Buddy! Just trying to get caught up on your thread. Trailer is coming along nice!!

Sorry to hear about the Deer!! But I must say..... You really made it look pretty darn good with your "body work" tools!!!!
Thanks Mark, I hope to get the trailer finished soon, my brother is supposed to pick it up when he comes over to go hunting, so I need to hurry up and gett'er done, lol. I'll bze working some overtime at work so hopefully I can start collecting the parts to get the permanent repairs done.

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Nice job with the initial repairs. I would add Deer Whistles to that list of yours, haha. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, I'll look into the deer whistle, have you used one before, and if so do you have any recommendations on a particular model?

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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 05:46 PM
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That's pretty dang good work for what you had and where you started, Ed!
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 07:37 PM
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Thanks CamTom!
Currently Im just saving up for some replacement parts, might wait till spring before doing any permanent repairs, who knows what this fall/winter will bring! Lol!
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 06:45 AM
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Thanks, I'll look into the deer whistle, have you used one before, and if so do you have any recommendations on a particular model?
Not sure, only seen them, Not even sure if they are effective. Couldn't hurt though, I think most of them are stick on.
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rustED
You might be on to something, Ed. Could be a big seller in certain parts of the country
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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Cold Start Issue

I haven't done anything to my 4runner since making my temporary repairs after hitting the deer. I'm still using it as my daily driver and it's been running like a top with no issues until last week. I had a week off work for Thanksgiving and parked my 4 runner and didnt drive it for the 5 days I was off. Last Wednesday I jumped in it to go to work and it just cranked over but wouldn't fire up. I tried it several times but not so much as a sputter or inclination of it trying to fire up. I haven't any prior experience with this issue, but assumed due to the recent cold weather that it was a cold start injector issue so I started researching threads on this topic.

After reading through a bunch of deadend threads I decided to check RAD4runner's build thread and sure enough, he had recently posted up some good info explaining how the cold start injector and corresponding system works, along with some other good info and some wiring schematics. After reading through his thread I ohm'd out both my cold start injector and my cold start injector timing switch and they both seemed to be in within spec. So I went on to the next easiest thing and removed the cold start injector timing switch, Temp-sensing vacuum switching valve, and the coolant temp sensor and thoroughly cleaned and reinstalled them. I was a little skeptical that this was going to make any difference, mainly because the parts didn't have nearly as much scale buildup on them as what was pictured in RAD4RUNNER'S build thread, in fact the housing threads where the switches and sensors threaded into had no scaling at all and looked clean. I checked the housing threads continuity to ground to make sure, and I was getting good continuity. Anyway after reinstalling them I tried starting it and she fired right up, and has every since. According to Rad's thread "Thorough cleaning of the CSI timer switch housing and the receiving threads is crucial because that's where CSI timer switch grounds on terminal of the CSI in order to actuate it." Just thought I'd pass on some of his info thought it might help someone else out, also here's a link to his thread, info starts on page #36 post #702 - #704.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...0/index36.html

Thanks for the info RAD4runner!

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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 04:03 PM
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I have never had a bad Cold Start Injector but have changed several CSI Timing Switches. Sometimes getting the scaling off of the sensor will fix the problem or times the sensor will not pass a resistance check and needs replaced. Anytime I am at the bone yard and see a Timing Switch, I will grab it. It is one sensor that does tend to fail. I have learned a lot on these threads.

How you making out on your Ford truck? I finally got a 76 Super Cab. It has a 460 in it. Takes up too much room and I thinking of going with a 300/6 with a manual transmission. 460 is going to be a gas hog. What would be your suggestion on the 300 with manual transmission? Think it will tow heavy loads? I not looking to win any races but want a heavy tow rig.

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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 05:43 AM
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Dang, that sucks about the deer ed. That was 80% of my motivation for a nice front bumper, i'm scared to death of hitting an animal at 80mph.
Hope you figure out the cold-start issues. seems like the electronics on the 22re are a little finicky. My DD starts up great even in below zero, but it idle's rough once warmed up. i've been trying to figure out that gremlin for a year now
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