RAD4Runner's 1986 4Runner dlx Build-up
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Those tires look fairly new but when I had my old worn out Trail Digger MTs on I thought it was wheel bearings making LOUD noise pretty much at all times loudest while turning. One blew out before I could do the bearings so I ended up getting the 31" Toyo OC R/T's plus and alignment. It was the first alignment since I owned it and apparently the whole front end was way off. Driving away from the tire shop I could barely hear any noise.
Now, when the tires get to about 5000 miles or so I start to hear the howl. That's when I know its time to rotate them, sound goes away until its time to rotate again. I'd say rotate your tires and see if the sound is the same or not. Could be an alignment issue too, how is the tire ware?
Always do cheap and easy stuff before you get into the expensive/intrusive work.
Now, when the tires get to about 5000 miles or so I start to hear the howl. That's when I know its time to rotate them, sound goes away until its time to rotate again. I'd say rotate your tires and see if the sound is the same or not. Could be an alignment issue too, how is the tire ware?
Always do cheap and easy stuff before you get into the expensive/intrusive work.
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Thank you.
I had checked the battery, cleaned all grounds, cleaned all positive terminals related to the starter (battery post and connections, starter connection).
I rerouted the 12v constant to the battery as intructed, but I guess I need a new starter.
Its strange, sometimes I just get a strong click from relay and selonoid (same time at start), and other times the starter will give me one weak single crank, as if my battery was dying, and othertimes it starts the motor in half a second like a champ.
I get 12.5 volts at the battery, and 10 to 11 volts during crank load, altenator does its job at 14.4. I guess its starter time unless this battery is somehow the culprit but the numbers seems healthy.
I had checked the battery, cleaned all grounds, cleaned all positive terminals related to the starter (battery post and connections, starter connection).
I rerouted the 12v constant to the battery as intructed, but I guess I need a new starter.
Its strange, sometimes I just get a strong click from relay and selonoid (same time at start), and other times the starter will give me one weak single crank, as if my battery was dying, and othertimes it starts the motor in half a second like a champ.
I get 12.5 volts at the battery, and 10 to 11 volts during crank load, altenator does its job at 14.4. I guess its starter time unless this battery is somehow the culprit but the numbers seems healthy.
Amazing! Thanks again!
Last edited by 89fourrunner; 08-12-2016 at 03:40 AM.
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... sometimes I just get a strong click from relay and selonoid (same time at start), and other times the starter will give me one weak single crank
Cheers!
Last edited by RAD4Runner; 08-16-2016 at 04:39 PM.
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All,
I posted issue with my upper radiator hose on this thread. (Hose too short, rubs against intake air duct and has a kink). I hope you could help.
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Flushing Cooling System
Time to flush my cooling system, but before I do it wanna gather all necessary parts and plan what other things I should do while system is drained:
1) Clean coolant temp sensors (temp indicator sender, CSI timer switch, coolant temp sensor) and connections.
2) Replace thermostat with dual-stage one (PN 90916-03070), because I like the extra protection and theoretically faster response of the dual-stage
3) Install temp gage sender in port behind the last freeze plug (here), and send to gauge that displays actual coolant temp, unlike the stock one.
4) [ADDED] Replace ill-fitting upper radiator hose.
Questions for you folks, Toyota TSB (TSB: 029032787 22R-E Engine Temperature Overshoot) that instructs to replace with dual-stage tstat mentions only some 1984 pick ups and 1983-84 Celica's with 22R-E engine.
Have you had any experience using dual-stage thermostat PN 90916-03070 on 1986 to 1988 22R-E's?
What gauge that displays actual temp are you running on your 22R-E? What temp range did you get? Are you satisfied with it? Any brand I should avoid?
TIA
two-stage thermostat
1) Clean coolant temp sensors (temp indicator sender, CSI timer switch, coolant temp sensor) and connections.
2) Replace thermostat with dual-stage one (PN 90916-03070), because I like the extra protection and theoretically faster response of the dual-stage
3) Install temp gage sender in port behind the last freeze plug (here), and send to gauge that displays actual coolant temp, unlike the stock one.
4) [ADDED] Replace ill-fitting upper radiator hose.
Questions for you folks, Toyota TSB (TSB: 029032787 22R-E Engine Temperature Overshoot) that instructs to replace with dual-stage tstat mentions only some 1984 pick ups and 1983-84 Celica's with 22R-E engine.
Have you had any experience using dual-stage thermostat PN 90916-03070 on 1986 to 1988 22R-E's?
What gauge that displays actual temp are you running on your 22R-E? What temp range did you get? Are you satisfied with it? Any brand I should avoid?
TIA
two-stage thermostat
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Trucklites LED Versus Auto-Pal Halogen Brightness and Spread Compared
This is with Trucklites aimed a little too low. Haven't adjusted it yet. Will update when I do.
Halogen in Auto-Pal Housing Low:
Trucklites LED Low:
Halogen in Auto-Pal housing High:
Trucklites LED High:
TRUCK-LITES CUT-OFF
TRUCK-LITES 27450C, LOW-BEAM IN OCOTILLO, CA
AUTO-PAL H4 CONVERSION HOUSING WITH SYLVANIA STANDARD SILVERSTARS:
TRUCK-LITES 27450C, LEAVING SPLIT MOUNTAIN, ANZA-BORREGO, CA
Halogen in Auto-Pal Housing Low:
Trucklites LED Low:
Halogen in Auto-Pal housing High:
Trucklites LED High:
TRUCK-LITES CUT-OFF
TRUCK-LITES 27450C, LOW-BEAM IN OCOTILLO, CA
AUTO-PAL H4 CONVERSION HOUSING WITH SYLVANIA STANDARD SILVERSTARS:
TRUCK-LITES 27450C, LEAVING SPLIT MOUNTAIN, ANZA-BORREGO, CA
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The kink you are showing in the other thread from what I can see is nothing to be concerned with. I would not consider it a kink. As far as the hoses touching each other, Probably most of the trucks I work on touch each other.
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CSF Radiator - Looks Like 3-YO Radiator?
In the past couple of months, I observed my coolant temp go higher than usual a few times. I flushed, rinsed and replaced coolant last week Then, yesterday, driving withAC on in 3-digit temps in San Fernando Valley, So Cal, it did it again. Turning off the AC brought the temp down. No big hills, just driving around 70MPH on freeway so I still think somethings wrong. Today, I removed my grille and bumper to straighten condenser coil fins, and other fins I could access, and also remove bugs, etc from the fins.
Then I noticed the condition of the radiator. The fins are corroded and crumble when I tried to pick bugs etc from them with tip of bamboo BBQ stick. Radiator was replaced by The Truck Shop in San Diego when I had my engine rebuilt in September 2013, so it was supposed to be brand-new. However, it looks worse than expected for a 3-YO radiator, used in very mild conditions in So Cal.
What do you guys think? It has a sticker by CSF, so I'll also ask the company if it has any kind of warranty that could cover this.
I expect a 3-YO radiator operated in mild conditions in So Cal to be much better than this. Your thoughts please?
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Only 3 years old??? I got this radiator about 2 years ago and my engine has never once gotten warmer than even slightly below the middle mark. Driven it up the grapevine (long hill) with AC... no budge. It was cheap, but it looks like the day I bought it and has worked perfectly. It is thicker than original, but eventually it fits.
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Interesting...
I have a CSF radiator in my truck that replaced the original that is now about 6 years old. I do not remember the model number but it still looks pretty new. There is only slight corrosion on the top tank lip because the upper radiator hose was leaking. I live in Oregon so I don't have any of the rust issues found elsewhere. The radiator is in my 1987 2wd truck so it might be a different radiator than yours.
What did the radiator looks like when it was put in?
Do you happen to drive through puddles of radiator rust solution often?
This seems strange for a California truck.
I will take pictures of mine and post them tomorrow.
I have a CSF radiator in my truck that replaced the original that is now about 6 years old. I do not remember the model number but it still looks pretty new. There is only slight corrosion on the top tank lip because the upper radiator hose was leaking. I live in Oregon so I don't have any of the rust issues found elsewhere. The radiator is in my 1987 2wd truck so it might be a different radiator than yours.
What did the radiator looks like when it was put in?
Do you happen to drive through puddles of radiator rust solution often?
This seems strange for a California truck.
I will take pictures of mine and post them tomorrow.
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Only 3 years old??? I got this radiator about 2 years ago and my engine has never once gotten warmer than even slightly below the middle mark. Driven it up the grapevine (long hill) with AC... no budge. It was cheap, but it looks like the day I bought it and has worked perfectly. It is thicker than original, but eventually it fits.
Interesting...
I have a CSF radiator in my truck that replaced the original that is now about 6 years old. I do not remember the model number but it still looks pretty new. There is only slight corrosion on the top tank lip because the upper radiator hose was leaking. I live in Oregon so I don't have any of the rust issues found elsewhere. The radiator is in my 1987 2wd truck so it might be a different radiator than yours.
Do you happen to drive through puddles of radiator rust solution often?
This seems strange for a California truck.
I will take pictures of mine and post them tomorrow.
I have a CSF radiator in my truck that replaced the original that is now about 6 years old. I do not remember the model number but it still looks pretty new. There is only slight corrosion on the top tank lip because the upper radiator hose was leaking. I live in Oregon so I don't have any of the rust issues found elsewhere. The radiator is in my 1987 2wd truck so it might be a different radiator than yours.
Do you happen to drive through puddles of radiator rust solution often?
This seems strange for a California truck.
I will take pictures of mine and post them tomorrow.
I do not remember how it looked like down there (where it's not hidden behind other coils), when I picked it up from the shop.
Yeah, that's what I thought. External corrosion like that seems unusually bad for a 3 year-old radiator.
I'm gonna contact shop about it. Shop was supposed to install new radiator, but I have a feeling the mech doing it may have taken a shortcut, saw the radiator was OK and left it there. God#@&$n, If you want it done right, definitely do it yourself.
ALL,
Any other recommendation for OEM or better rads?
Cheers!
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Hey Ray,
That radiator looks older than 3 years. Look at my build thread pages 17 and 18. I have had both an aluminum and csf (current) radiator, my CSF still looks new but it's not 3 years old yet.
Grego
That radiator looks older than 3 years. Look at my build thread pages 17 and 18. I have had both an aluminum and csf (current) radiator, my CSF still looks new but it's not 3 years old yet.
Grego
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Cooling System: Grille Upgrade
Meanwhile, to help minimize pebble strike and keep dead bugs off the radiator/condenser...
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I like the Gutter Guard just because it looks good! If it helps that's a bonus.
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I use the factory radiators and get them from junk yards. The Preston flush kit you get at the part stores will not get all of the build up out of the radiator. You will need to pull the radiator and take it to a radiator repair shop and have them to flush it. They have a power flusher and it basically looks like a car wash wand. They will flush the radiator from radiator fill hole down to the lower hose and then from the lower hose to the fill hole. Each time they do that, you will be amazed at how much muddy water comes out. That is some nasty stuff they flush out.
I cant tell if that is just debris from the road you have or if the radiator is just corroding away on you. It has been over 20 years ago but I had a radiator flushed with in 5 miles of 32nd street Navy base in San Diego. Not sure how far from that area you are from but they were able to do it for me when I was there.
I cant tell if that is just debris from the road you have or if the radiator is just corroding away on you. It has been over 20 years ago but I had a radiator flushed with in 5 miles of 32nd street Navy base in San Diego. Not sure how far from that area you are from but they were able to do it for me when I was there.
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You're right. using the "light-duty" method with Prestone Flush does not take as much dirt out.
The back of the bottle also mentions "heavy-duty" flush procedure where flushing solution is left in system and the vehicle driven about 6 hours over a couple of days. We did that to my daughter's Corolla. When first drained, so-called "long-life" coolant was still a good, clean pink color. However, at end of "heavy-duty" flush, this is how dark the water was that I drained out:
I then rinsed over and over, both using water hose into the heater hose, and by refilling with water and running engine until the cooling fan turned on, then draining.
Will try the "heavy-duty" method on my truck, too, and will report back.
Last edited by RAD4Runner; 08-31-2017 at 08:11 AM. Reason: After Heavy-Duty Flush of Corolla Cooling System
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