86-95 Trucks & 4Runners (Build-Up Section) Post your build-ups here

RAD4Runner's 1986 4Runner dlx Build-up

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 23, 2014 | 02:25 PM
  #501  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 680
Hi,

As you know, I have already fixed the improper wiring (by Toyota) of the starter relay and truck had started flawlessly since then. However, now I get the click-only problem once in a while. The solenoid contacts must now be very bad. I do not have time to rebuild so I just want to replace with OEM starter.

If you have ever bought OEM Toyota starter, where did you find the best deal?

TIA and regards,
Ray
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2014 | 02:51 PM
  #502  
rworegon's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,125
Likes: 4
From: Columbia River Gorge, Oregon...east side
I picked up a DENSO at Rockauto at a good price some years back for my rig.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2014 | 04:01 PM
  #503  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 680
Originally Posted by rworegon
I picked up a DENSO at Rockauto at a good price some years back for my rig.

Thank you very much, rworegon!

Guys, I found DENSO Part # 2800106 on rockauto site with the "heart" icon, meaning it's a well-liked item. Name:  Rock_Auto_Catalog_DENSO2800106_zps3ecb8aee.jpg
Views: 2452
Size:  44.9 KB

More info on this is here.

Any first-hand feedback on this?

TIA
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2014 | 11:22 PM
  #504  
Terrys87's Avatar
Super Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 11,787
Likes: 28
From: Anderson Missouri
I have never bought a new Denso starter. I have several in storage and just grab one of them so I cant help as far as feed back on those. Being a Denso I would trust it to be great.
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2014 | 05:06 PM
  #505  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 680
Refurbished Quarter Vent Louver

When rubber slats on the quarter vent louver are gone, water sprayed horizontally (such as from car wash) could get inside the body panels and cause damage such as shorting/corroding the rear window/wiper control relay module.

I used rubber sheet from Marshall's Industrial Hardware that's approximately 1/32-inch thick to make the slats...
Name:  IMG_3911_zpsc6b49387.jpg
Views: 2307
Size:  75.3 KB

Here I marked where to slit/poke holes for mounting...Name:  IMG_3912_zpsfbb0a660.jpg
Views: 2328
Size:  78.2 KB

Assembled:
Name:  IMG_3924_zps5b90536a.jpg
Views: 2305
Size:  68.5 KB

Assembly detail:
Name:  IMG_3913_zps42eea2f5.jpg
Views: 2317
Size:  109.6 KB
I used soldering iron to remove mushroom head on plastic heat stake and re-staked after installing slats.

Here are retainers needed for First-gen MoreFunner...
Name:  IMG_3927_zpsd6b817b3.jpg
Views: 3943
Size:  88.3 KB

It is almost impossible to remove vent cover without breaking these retainers so make sure you have some ready before starting the project.

Upper retainers are PN 62955-89101, 4 per side on first-gen MoreFunner
Lowers are PN 62955-91C01, 1 per side on first-gen MoreFunner

Name:  _MG_4504_zps5efe6e7a.jpg
Views: 2341
Size:  97.8 KB

Name:  _MG_4506_zpsad4d0466.jpg
Views: 2353
Size:  87.5 KB

Louver re-installed:

Name:  IMG_3928_zpsa8bcbdc7.jpg
Views: 2317
Size:  76.0 KB

Last edited by RAD4Runner; Sep 24, 2014 at 07:18 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2014 | 05:24 AM
  #506  
RBX's Avatar
RBX
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,795
Likes: 33
From: Bloodymore
thanks for supplying the part numbers for the clips and retainers.

I used bicycle inner tube for mine
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2014 | 07:28 AM
  #507  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 680
Originally Posted by RBX
thanks for supplying the part numbers for the clips and retainers.I used bicycle inner tube for mine
Most welcome, RBX. Yes could have used mountain bike inner tube but did not have any handy.

Thanks for sharing info on your roof rack install. I finally competing (just 2 more bolts to do) mine.
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2014 | 01:35 PM
  #508  
Nervo19's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,448
Likes: 100
From: Virginia
Originally Posted by RBX
thanks for supplying the part numbers for the clips and retainers.

I used bicycle inner tube for mine

Weird but I was going to say the exact same thing. I used bike tube too and was wondering about replacement retainers. Great detective work on the part numbers. I had thought about supplementing the retainers with 3M emblem tape.
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2014 | 01:54 PM
  #509  
RBX's Avatar
RBX
Registered User
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,795
Likes: 33
From: Bloodymore
My inner tube pieces have started to warp. They still overlap nicely but don't lay flat as they did when I first did it.
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2014 | 02:41 PM
  #510  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 680
Spartan Headliner and Backing Plate /Mounting of Roof Rack

LOL! Yeah got road bike inner tube from office mate and it turned out too narrow and with too much curvature.

I actually got the P/N/s from Terry. I merely photographed and noted required quantities for the MoreFunner.

I detest those hidden fasteners; I tried replacing them with expansion nut-bolt combination but because of different curvature between body panel and the plastic vent cover, lining up the expansion nuts, and bolts squarely became a challenge.

BTW thanks, RBX and Mark, for the ideas on the roof rack and headliner. I had to do them in parallel because headliner interior trim and roof rack mounts are interdependent... Will post write-up later, but here are teasers...

Anti-fatigue headliner - LOL! Idea stolen from Mark.
Name:  _MG_5357_zpsc2cb646f.jpg
Views: 2405
Size:  116.4 KB

Name:  _MG_5359_zps155155b2.jpg
Views: 2324
Size:  112.1 KB

Orange cord is for general-purpose attachment for future accessories. It is attached to cable clamps secured to bottom end of roof rack mounting bolt.
Name:  _MG_5337_zps25cc5af2.jpg
Views: 2307
Size:  193.2 KB

Backing Plate of roof rack mount in front:
Name:  _MG_5337A_zps26c79082.jpg
Views: 2286
Size:  54.7 KB

Test Fit:
Name:  _MG_5338_zpsd89d4bfb.jpg
Views: 2284
Size:  61.2 KB

Trim and Cord Installed:
Name:  _MG_5358_zpsb871a878.jpg
Views: 2280
Size:  51.0 KB

I have since replaced the nylon clamps with more robust rubber-covered steel ones.

This type headliner reminds me of the the Troopy's here. No dusty, crumbly stufff...

Last edited by RAD4Runner; May 3, 2018 at 08:42 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2014 | 05:19 PM
  #511  
liveoffroad's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 705
Likes: 19
From: Colorado
nice work! i like the idea of the cord. got my wheels turnin now...
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2014 | 06:10 PM
  #512  
ChefYota4x4's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 19,281
Likes: 20
From: Lake Havasu, AZ
Yessssss!
Reply
Old Sep 26, 2014 | 04:25 AM
  #513  
Terrys87's Avatar
Super Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 11,787
Likes: 28
From: Anderson Missouri
That is a great keeping the water out. Something I will work on. I dont remember if it was you or someone else that said it is possible to save your bottom clips by prying the top and middle of the trim off and it will break those clips and then lift the trim up and that would save the lower clips. I havent got to try that yet. I tired it on my 85 but some one had installed some home made clips that I am going to replace anyways. Really no way of saving the clips that I know of as there is no access to them but that should work for the bottom clips.
Reply
Old Sep 26, 2014 | 07:40 AM
  #514  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 680
Originally Posted by Terrys87
...I dont remember if it was you or someone else that said it is possible to save your bottom clips by prying the top and middle of the trim off and it will break those clips and then lift the trim up and that would save the lower clips.
Terry, I believe 4Crawler mentioned that on his website. Slide the bottom sideways one way to clear the bottom retainer then push the whole cover up. Could save a couple of them.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2014 | 06:43 AM
  #515  
atlastrekker's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: Sierra Foothills
Great thread and build!

I'm looking forward to seeing how you do your roof rack.

When you did your headlights did you think about adding a NO Relay to the highbeam circuit to power driving lights? I'm headed down that path now, as I'd like to add a small LED light bar to the front bumper.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2014 | 08:25 AM
  #516  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 680
Originally Posted by atlastrekker
When you did your headlights did you think about adding a NO Relay to the highbeam circuit to power driving lights? I'm headed down that path now, as I'd like to add a small LED light bar to the front bumper.
Thanks, atlastrekker. Good idea but I did not. I'll just hook up auxiliary lights independent of headlights later. Will post pics of roof rack install later.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2014 | 10:47 PM
  #517  
ChefYota4x4's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 19,281
Likes: 20
From: Lake Havasu, AZ
Dude, .....your a great read! Miss chatting with you! Great loooovers! Lol... AWESOME in the clips! My passenger side on the donor silverback is a little wobbly and rattling around. I need to check that out!
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2014 | 02:37 PM
  #518  
RustBucket's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,804
Likes: 25
From: Atlanta
Input on Denso remanned starters:

You can get the one for the Auto transmission (part 280-0131) and it will bolt in just fine on a 22RE with a manual. That is what I did on mine. The starter for the auto is 1.4kW and the manual is 1.0kW. Just a bigger motor. Seemed like a worthy upgrade to me. It really makes the 22RE hump!
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2014 | 05:32 PM
  #519  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 680
Originally Posted by RustBucket
Input on Denso remanned starters:

You can get the one for the Auto transmission (part 280-0131) and it will bolt in just fine on a 22RE with a manual. That is what I did on mine. The starter for the auto is 1.4kW and the manual is 1.0kW. Just a bigger motor. Seemed like a worthy upgrade to me. It really makes the 22RE hump!
Hi RustBucket,
WOW. Thanks! Really appreciate that. I had been wondering why there are the 1.0 kW and the 1.4kW. Toyota still makes the 1.4kW but not the 1.0 kW , anymore.
Best regards,
Ray
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2014 | 10:34 PM
  #520  
RAD4Runner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 680
Comparing Good and Worn Out Fan Clutch aka Liquid Coupling

Comparing Good and Worn Out Fan Clutch aka Liquid Coupling

Fluid coupling is strongest when fan clutch is sensing hot air = fan speed follows pulley speed more closely than when fan clutch is sensing cold air.
After stopping from a drive that brought engine to normal operating temp, leave engine idling for several minutes to make sure that fan clutch is ONLY sensing air from fan, not highway wind. Wait for engine to sound like it's straining - meaning liquid coupling is max. When you shut off ignition, the fan should stop within a couple of seconds (2-3 on my new one) like this:

When fan does not follow pulley speed as closely even when sensing hot air from radiator, this means that fan clutch is worn. On my older fan clutch, under same conditions, fan kept on turning about 6 to 8 seconds after engine was turned off.


Can be refurbished or merely replaced with Aisin brand for around $40.

Keywords:
fanclutch, liquidcoupling, liquid coupling, fan clutch, overheat

Last edited by RAD4Runner; Oct 30, 2019 at 09:11 PM.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:33 PM.