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Old May 25, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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single or dual steering stabilizer??

my truck is an 85 model with an 83 front axle in it. it has crossover steering. i currenly have no steering stabilizer on the truck and am running 38 inch tires. at low speeds i get a really embarrasing death wobble that makes people point and laugh at me lol at speeds over 30 and any speeds off the blacktop its fine.
with the 38 inch tires should i be running a single or dual stabilizer?? i normally would just throw a dual on there but im just wondering what you guys are running.
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Old May 25, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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One should be just fine if things are setup properly.

A steering stabilizer is just a band-aid to help relieve the symptoms of the real problem. You need to check:
- that everything is tight (balljoints, high steer arms, tie rods, pitman arm, etc)
- caster is approx 5* (you might need to cut/rotate the knuckles to get this)
- wheels are balanced
- steering box is tight
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Old May 26, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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well, i know the steerin box is good, the king pin bearings im not sure about but i can say they are clean and greased. the tires deffinetly arent balanced.
what would be the best way to check the castor angle??
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Old May 26, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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when i was running 36 inch tsl's i had the same cage rattling death wabble. im pretty sure it is impossible to balance a bias ply tire. that is why i traded mine for a set of 35 inch mtr's! you can't beat the tsl's in the mud though. i kinda miss the death wabble.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
what would be the best way to check the castor angle??
See below:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Shims.shtml#FAQ1
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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You say it starts at 40mph huh? Research on the net that I have done says that 40 is the frequency speed that an unbalanced tire will be really noticeable (bounces) and is worse with larger tires. You may need alot of weight, but balancing the tires would be the first thing I would try. Easy cheap fix is to go old school balancing by putting antifreeze in the tires for dynamic balance. Might help and cost zilch! Careful though--there may be issues with flats and plug repairs when using the fluid in the tires. Tire shops won't like it.
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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There are also ceramic bead balancing products out there that go inside the tire and do the same thing, but tire shops don't sell them around here. Guess that would put them out of business.
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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I am running some 36" tsl sx's and since i went wheeling and threw off the balancing, i have a wobble in the tires between 35-45mph. I am looking to get some new tires soon so i am not going to pay to have them rebalanced.

Go get your tires balanced if it bothers you too much.
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tc
One should be just fine if things are setup properly.

A steering stabilizer is just a band-aid to help relieve the symptoms of the real problem. You need to check:
- that everything is tight (balljoints, high steer arms, tie rods, pitman arm, etc)
- caster is approx 5* (you might need to cut/rotate the knuckles to get this)
- wheels are balanced
- steering box is tight
X100

I've yet to put a steering stabilizer on any rig I've SASd or on any of my 85s...no need. It is an unneeded part if things are done right.

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