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Old 03-20-2012, 08:11 AM
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newbie questions about sas

so i am going to be sas my truck in the next few months because i need new tires, wheel bearings, all my steering is shot ,need new break pads and i just blew up my stock r&p after 200k (not bad for stock) so i think now is the time to do it... would spend probably about the same for replacing all that!
now i have done a lot of reading about this but I'm gonna ask all of yours oppion about what axle to put under it... i want to build a indestructible axle for 2 reasons because i love long distants off road trips and i drive my truck hard. with that being said should i get (not sure what year) toyota or should i get a d44 or if any one has a better idea? and what suspension should i run like leaf springs (and not sure about the coils in the back leafs in the front) or do a coil over setup. i know its manly about the money but is it that much better on and off road to spend the money?
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This has been covered all over this forum.

you can use any 79-85 Toyota mini truck axles. 84-85 is the best. 83 is the mid point. You can also use Fj60 & Fj62 axles. ( require a bit more work, but are stronger ) You can also use passenger side drop D44s. Wagoneers are the best if you're planning on keeping the tires under the fender...

I'd keep it simple and go with leafs. they ride rough, but are very durable. If you have the extra cash, go coilovers.

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http://www.wabfab.org/Customer-Projects/wabyota.html

Build thread on YT as well.

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now the fj60 i deff don't mind the extra work if it is worth it for the strength
and what about the rear being spring have not read to much about the rear what people do?
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Well im going to be going with an FJ62 front and a shortened Fj80 rear. leafed F&R
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well i just port yukon 4.88s and a grizzly locker in the rear so i wanted to keep it the same just put good axle shafts in it but I'm still up in the air about the front but i need to get this project under way really soon! now what kinda of EXTRA work is need for the fj 60 front and how arable are beffer parts for it?
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the rear axle is strong in stock form. you aren't gonna break that with a 3.0. Unless you throw huge tires on it.

The Fj60 axle is the same as the mini truck axle, its just wider, thicker, and a 9.5 diff. it uses the same knuckles as well.
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now what if i did the front leafs what should i do with the back leafs too and what is the benefit of the rear leaf?
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Your stock rear axle will handle 37s easy.

Rear leafs are cheaper, ride on road well, easy for the average schmuck to setup, and flex well.

Look at the build link above. Stock 95 4Runner turned into offroad machine.

Your biggest consideration is your budget.

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well you guys deff talked me into the fj 60 do know if there is a link anywhere for the fj 60 swap?
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and what kinda upgrade should i look into for it like what are the weak links in it
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or does any one have a write up on this swap like what u need to do for it?
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The fact that you can't find much info on this swap should speak volumes.

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yea i can not find any info at all and i can't find any in my area so now I'm leaning towards 8" or do u guys know of any builds on it?
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7/10 build ups will probably have it on there.

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f152...h-more-250022/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f152...-specs-197544/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f152...runner-245494/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f152...ck-sas-164531/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f152/90-2dr-sas-142970/

Took me about 10 minutes. and i just searched "SAS"
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nobody really goes into detail about the what is different and still bring to tiger out what year to get the fj60 from?
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What exactly did you want to know?

They are strong. 5" birf instead of the 3.5 in mini trucks. If you find the right years, the rears are Full Float with disk brakes. Should handle 37" tires stock just fine. To be safe, upgrade to longfields in front, and poly performance chromo shafts in the rear.

Both front and rear came with electric locking differentials on some models. Both front and rear have offset diffs to the passenger side. Meaning, if you have a center drop t-case, and you drive on the road, you are going to get driveline vibrations pretty bad if you use the rear axle. I can't remember what drop the XJ's are in the front, but I thought they were passenger.

63" WMS to WMS in the front, 62.5 in the rear, IIRC.

Front is a high pinion (30% stronger) 8" diff, rear is an 8.875" regular diff. The rear is really strong.

Front high steer can be done with OTT arms (require machining at OTT= have to send your knuckles out) and leaf springs. Slee high steer requires links as leafs will not fit. Figure 6-700 for the steering.

More can be found on IH8MUD, and Pirate.

directly from https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f25/...stions-185932/

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f88/...14-bolt-94317/

Fj80's were 89-97

There is a reason people dont do it often. What is it you want to know that you cant find?
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thank u so much thats what i have been looking for i have not been able to find that! i thought that they were a 9".... u said that u can find and elocker for the front with is a high pion right?..... the knuckles are the same from what i have heard so can i buy the tg six shooter knuckles with that high steer kit or i have to do something different??
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well now i realize thats was about the fj 80 so what is the differences from the fj60?and why don't they do them often if it is so much better??

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Looks like you need to do some research

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=o...w=1600&bih=777


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