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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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what do u mean keep the tune down till i get on the dyno? y do i need a dyno to tune it? more put more of a load then the car will make by itsself?
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 85celicagthatchback
i planed on it the wiper tank is on the left hand side on the intake the pupm i was gone mount on the strut tower and the the nozzle on the tb. the exhaust is on the other side of the engine.
The wiper tank makes a great tank for the methanol and can still be used for the windshield. This is what I do with most cars.

Pump just make sure it is somewhere out of the way and in as cool a spot as possible. Keeping it out of the "direct" engine bay is ideal but it can be done inside as well.

The nozzle you want as far from the TB as possible but after the intercooler, hence the intercooler exit. Gives the methanol more time to atomize and cool the air charge and allows for a more even distribution.

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what do u mean keep the tune down till i get on the dyno? y do i need a dyno to tune it? more put more of a load then the car will make by itsself?
You said you will be using a megasquirt, that will need to be tuned. If you will be using a stock ECU then a 10gph nozzle might be too big, might want to start with the 7gph and see how it does and also might have to add water to the mix to keep AFR's in check. A wideband will be needed to see what needs to happen and dyno time would be ideal but on the stock ECU it would just be a bonus.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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the intercooler wont be installed for awhile to come so on the stock turbo tube theres a 90 degree bend right befor the tb or i could but the nozzle pre turbo since the inter cooler wont be going on for a few months after i get the tuebo swap running and mega squirt is gone be more around xmas time
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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and the pump should be getting to hot it be kinda next to the intake but ill keep a eye on the temp of it. so cooling mist pump can handle 100% methanol right
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 85celicagthatchback
the intercooler wont be installed for awhile to come so on the stock turbo tube theres a 90 degree bend right befor the tb or i could but the nozzle pre turbo since the inter cooler wont be going on for a few months after i get the tuebo swap running and mega squirt is gone be more around xmas time
Then install the nozzle at the turbo outlet, you want to give it as much time as possible before hitting the manifold.

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and the pump should be getting to hot it be kinda next to the intake but ill keep a eye on the temp of it. so cooling mist pump can handle 100% methanol right
As long as it is a newer style pump, yes 100% meth should be fine. Just make sure it is truly pure methanol with no top end lube or other additives in it.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 01:46 PM
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it will be pure methanol would the pump be marked if it cant handle 1005 methanol? why wouldnt it beable to handle 100% methanol?
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 85celicagthatchback
it will be pure methanol would the pump be marked if it cant handle 1005 methanol? why wouldnt it beable to handle 100% methanol?
Some of the older pumps used different seals that would not handle 100% methanol long term. Just depends on how old it is. If it is an aquatech then you are fine for sure. Most likely even the shurflow will be fine unless the kit is really old.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 05:33 PM
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? It's a cooling mist pump though
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 85celicagthatchback
? It's a cooling mist pump though
No it's not. They just stick their lable on it like most meth injection companies. They all use the same pump now days. The older pumps they used were verious versions of the shurflow 8000 series. Some worked great with 100% methanol, others only liked 50/50.

They then swapped over to the aquatech a few years ago which is fine with 100% meth in all versions. If you look at pictures of modern kits that is an aquatech pump, if yours looks like that then you are fine.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Im almost 100% positive that the shurflow will do straight meth
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 07:38 AM
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Im almost 100% positive that the shurflow will do straight meth
It can, if it has the right seals. The early models have bama or Viton seals which were only good for 50/50 meth and even that was not a long term option really.

Then they switched to EPDM which is 100% meth compatible later. All the aquatechs come with EPDM seals.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 10:25 AM
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it says shurflo on it model:8030-811239 12v 150psi but below that says dont not run flammable liquids through pump more then 50% methanol is a fammable liquid. ;(
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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think i mite need to just sell this kit and buy a full stage 3
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 85celicagthatchback
it says shurflo on it model:8030-811239 12v 150psi but below that says dont not run flammable liquids through pump more then 50% methanol is a fammable liquid. ;(
They put the no more then 50% methanol on all pups for liability reasons. Doesn't mean anything. Although it is a good idea to mount the pump with the motor facing up if possible so in case of a leak the fluid doesn't go through the motor.

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think i mite need to just sell this kit and buy a full stage 3
I do agree with selling what you have and buying from scratch but you don't need a stage 3, just get the kit I linked to earlier, it will more then handle what you need for now. Later if you find you need more you can always upgrade. I prefer the devils own solenoids anyways.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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ya i seen that in ur video so thats what i was planning on doing. so how do i know if my pump can handle 100% methanol
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 85celicagthatchback
ya i seen that in ur video so thats what i was planning on doing. so how do i know if my pump can handle 100% methanol
By the seals it has, which is hard to know after the fact. All the newer pumps have the correct EPDM seals, just the older ones that didn't.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 04:52 PM
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so part number or anything like that wont beable to tell me ?
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 85celicagthatchback
so part number or anything like that wont beable to tell me ?
Sometimes, can try searching but you can get the same pump with different seals. Best idea is to ask coolingmist, they may have never used the wrong seals. Not all the companies did, just some of them.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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ok so the down pipw set up i ordered is 3inch stainless so is that to big or is it good to have that big of a tube for a turbo ? should i upgrade my who exhaust system to 3inch ?
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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When I still had the T25 on my CA18 I ran a full 3" turbo back exhaust. Didnt make a huge power difference over my 2.5" (6whp 2wtq on dyno dynamics) but the difference in my spool was well worth it. I was making full 15psi in 1st gear where I wouldnt usually make more than 11-12psi peak hold according to my EVC6. Really cut down my E.T.'s too
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