You should still be able to pass smog, but i don`t know about the visual inspection. You could swap things back to stock for the smog test and then put it back when its done. You only have to smog every two years, so it wouldn`t be a big deal.

 

Ya that is true it shouldnt change the smog pass/fail issue what so ever really. The visual is the trick though. Ill probably go down to my smog guy and see what he has to say. Other wise it looks like Ill be doin the good old two year switch eh?

Who knows, maybe ill get lucky and a fellow cali will post their smog experience with this mod =-)

 

Any of you who have done the swap and still have the original AFM that works, let me know, I am in need of one.

 

Look in the parts for sale section, im sure you can find one there.

 

So, I went down to my smog guy today and it is as i feared.....

Unless you get the carb sticker, it aint legal in cali.

Now in the past alot of these smog guys would just overlook it b/c who cares right? Well now if you get pulled over and they do a check on the intake unit and it aint good to go they may ask you when you got your last smog send you on your way then come back to the smog guy and be like hey why did this smog pass? Then fine the smogger fines starting at a thousand bucks as a deterrent to NOT smog these intakes w/o said carb legel numbers.

Now, that means custom piping and intake wont pass. However if you went and got said k&n kit WITH that carb sticker and modded the pipe to route to the batt side location who is to say that isnt the way it came in box? Slap the sticker in a visible spot make it clean and call it a day. When or if it is looked up the carb number will say that said kit was made for your vehicle and that it is legal as can be. You got your carb number your vehicle passes smog so all in all its a lot more pricey but doing it 'right' with less headaches in the long run may be worth it.

If you are intersted in the k&n kit that is smog legal you can find it at lc engineering whose package comes with a pipe or go to k&n site which does not come with the pipe.

 

When the smog guys look up the CA smog Executive Order number, it shows a picture of the intake parts and exactly how it is installed.

I went through all of this when had a custom 5vze engine. I did however make it pass smog by using a supra MAF and a factory intake from a chevy 4.3l. The smog ref did not question the intake as it looked like a factory intake. If anything looks non-factory, it will fail.

The smog tech even checked fuel injector part numbers with a mirror and a magnifying glass to make sure that I had the correct injectors installed.

 

Wow, this is incredible. I cant imagine how the airflow ROUTING decides if a vehicle is legal or not. Unbelievable, Sigh.

I honestly didnt think that they would go so far as to have pictures to go all along with this. So BASICALLY it is impossible to do this swap in cali unless your happy re routing everything every two years...

You mention the supra maf which leads me to think you had the 22re yet you mention the custom 3.4 liter, is there a supra mod for that motor as well or are you talking about two seperate motors?

 

Im so glad i moved out of the peoples republic of california, it was the best thing ive ever done.

 

Lol easier said than done, 95% of my family live here, imprisoned by association?

Sadly yes.

 

i have mine....if u want it i can ship it on ur penny..
but the ex owmer play around wiht the thing...
but i heard u can get it back to original

 

Hey tacho75 when you did your supra mod did you mod the stock air box or get the fipk stuff?

 

There are several supra afm/maf mods. Mine was for a 98 tacoma with a 5vz and custom RC injectors. The supra mod for that year tacoma is to take a 1998 supra TT stock MAF and install it with a new intake onto the 5vz throttle body via an oversized tube and tune the outboard fuel management system to accept the higher Air flow. The 22re mod you are talking about I have not done yet, but I am going to put a v6 camry AFM with swapped board into my 22re truck next week. I think that the best way to make real horsepower gains with the supra/camry v6 AFM into a 22re is to get the TRD stage II camshaft. Otherwise there will be little point to modifying the intake system if the engine doesn't want/need any more air at high rpm. the stage II cam has significant overlap, which coupled with a better intake could produce more HP.

Ill let you know when I have the whole system setup and dynoed.

 

I have a 82 Supra AFM and a converted Supra non turbo housing with 22re electronic soldered inside.Throttle response greatly improved and so smooth providing that everything else is maintained properly at stock specs and gas mileage up with normal driving and yes I run bigger tires with gears.Both of my trucks have the big throttle bore from LCE,Its like a Celica performance in a truck...........
22re w/33" Swampers 22mpg 4:88 gears,DT tri y headers 2 1/4" super 44's flowmaster,stock cam also heres a pic of original AFM housing

22re w/31's AT 21-22mpg 4:56 gears,LCE headers 2 1/4" super 44's flowmaster,260 Comp Cam

 

Oh man Blackulua, i would LOVE to hear how your rig sounds with that.

@ Duffdog Thanks for the info man, I wasnt aware of that mod, sounds pretty sweet. Also I have the LC engineering performance cam, I am not too sure how it compares to the trd stage II so forgive my ignorance lol.

But ultimately my intake exhaust setup with be like this

Supra afm swap, stock airbox location slightly modded to look factory yet accept afm. LC Header, LC cam, all to go with my currently installed high flow cat with magnaflow exhaust with 2.25 piping

 

Not to say bad about the LCE cams but I tried it before I sold it and its not as good as the Engnbldr 270 and the Comp Cam 260.They both runs better with the 22re with outstanding throttle response with stock idle and good gas mileage with stock timing settings at 5 degrees.The LCE cam adjuster is a great addition to have also.

 

Where did you find that nice molded 90degree bend at the throttle body?

 

Its a bling type silicone with custom clamps probably OReilys has some.

 

would an 87 supra AFM work with my 93 22re? or does it have to be from an earlier model supra?

 

Ya i got a deal on the lce cam so i didnt really wanna pass it up over stock ya know?
I have heard great things about the egnbldr stuff though. Im ordering the adjustable cam gear soon when i pull my head to figure out where this odd noise is coming from lol. wish me luck!

 

you guys think it would pass smog if you put the air filter box from the supra in there to make it look factory?? thats what I was thinking on doing, just havent had a chance or the funds to do it yet.