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03-02-2018, 04:36 PM
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I went out this morning and had a little surprise when my truck did not start like usual. It did start after a few tries, and was fine for a while, but now I know there is an electrical problem. I already replaced the starter relay (keeping old one for sure). Perhaps the starter solenoid? That would be my next point, unless you folks know better. The starter sounds very strong, when it engages. It cranks really well. I have a new battery (01/2018). This problem came out of nowhere! Any ideas?
03-02-2018, 04:46 PM
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I went out this morning and had a little surprise when my truck did not start like usual. It did start after a few tries, and was fine for a while, but now I know there is an electrical problem. I already replaced the starter relay (keeping old one for sure). Perhaps the starter solenoid? That would be my next point, unless you folks know better. The starter sounds very strong, when it engages. It cranks really well. I have a new battery (01/2018). This problem came out of nowhere! Any ideas?
Idea #2: Tell us what motor is in it and what transmission, auto or stick?
Idea #3: Tell us what happens when you turn the key, not just "it won't start". does it crank? does it click?
Idea #3 Don't tell us you have a new battery, test the voltage and let us know what that is. If you don't have a voltmeter tell us if the headlights come on and if they are bright or dim.
03-02-2018, 04:50 PM
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Before it started, what did it DO? Nothing (no noise, no lights), click-but-no-crank, click-thunk, but no crank, tepid cranking, vigorous cranking but no fire, firing but not enough to run? Don't make us guess!
And I can guarantee that the next step will involve ... a multimeter. If you don't have one, waste no time, get one. https://www.harborfreight.com/7-func...ter-90899.html
And I can guarantee that the next step will involve ... a multimeter. If you don't have one, waste no time, get one. https://www.harborfreight.com/7-func...ter-90899.html
03-02-2018, 05:01 PM
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Since you mentioned replacing the starter relay can we assume you turn the key and get nothing but a click? and you tried over and over and it finally started? Throw us a bone here! plenty of people on this forum want to help, but it get's frustrating when it takes 10 posts for the whole story to come out.
03-02-2018, 06:45 PM
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What year Escalade are we looking at?
No start as in no crank (starter turns the engine) or no combustion (you feel, hear, smell the VROOM).
Sorry, my crystal ball is broken
O.P., aside from clearly describing your problem (put us in front of your engine compartment), put model-year-engine-transmission-trim on your signature like scope103, AKWheeler, and I have done.
No start as in no crank (starter turns the engine) or no combustion (you feel, hear, smell the VROOM).
Sorry, my crystal ball is broken
O.P., aside from clearly describing your problem (put us in front of your engine compartment), put model-year-engine-transmission-trim on your signature like scope103, AKWheeler, and I have done.
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03-02-2018, 06:56 PM
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Since you mentioned replacing the starter relay can we assume you turn the key and get nothing but a click? and you tried over and over and it finally started? Throw us a bone here! plenty of people on this forum want to help, but it gets frustrating when it takes 10 posts for the whole story to come out.
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03-02-2018, 07:01 PM
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Pls see my signature...
OMG How much more vague can you get?
"everything seems to work fine until I try to start. "What everything? How does everything stop working?
"everything goes dead when I try to start, but as soon as I release the key (and the starter is done)"... The starter is done dying? I thought it is already dead.
"The starter just cuts out suddenly" I thought it is dead and not starting.
No, the relay has been replaced, and everything seems to work fine until I try to start. Of course, everything goes dead when I try to start, but as soon as I release the key (and the starter is done) it all comes back on. The starter just cuts out suddenly. Very strange. This is why I suspect the starter solenoid. It is probably wise to replace both.
"everything seems to work fine until I try to start. "What everything? How does everything stop working?
"everything goes dead when I try to start, but as soon as I release the key (and the starter is done)"... The starter is done dying? I thought it is already dead.
"The starter just cuts out suddenly" I thought it is dead and not starting.
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I have a most excellent multi-meter, and am not trying to be vague, but this is troubling me! It is an electrical thing, as far as I can tell. I'm simply asking if anyone has had this experience. The starter sounds fine, if it engages, but then suddenly "poof". Perhaps it is the starter, but I doubt that.
03-02-2018, 07:14 PM
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I have a most excellent multi-meter, and am not trying to be vague, but this is troubling me! It is an electrical thing, as far as I can tell. I'm simply asking if anyone has had this experience. The starter sounds fine, if it engages, but then suddenly "poof". Perhaps it is the starter, but I doubt that.
03-02-2018, 07:30 PM
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And no, we haven't had experience with starter engaging then going "poof".
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03-02-2018, 07:41 PM
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when I work on a Kenworth and the starter goes "poof" I look for it on the ground, then I check the cables for good connection. then I try to cross the solenoid to see if there is an issue with the ignition circuit
03-02-2018, 07:46 PM
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Lexor, look at my signature, it says 1995 4runner 3.0 with an automatic. it leaves no question about what Toyota I have, it does not leave any question if I have done an engine swap or if I have the 4 banger or 3.slow or 3.4 or 4.0 swap, If you won't help us help you then you will just have to fix your own issues.
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Gentlemen -
Lexor15 is relatively new to the forum. Let's give him a few minutes to get his "signature" set up, and to start thinking like he wants to find just where this electrical problem is.
Then we can start (continue) giving him a hard time. If necessary.
"Everything goes dead when I try to start" is the sign of a discharged battery (the current draw of the starter causes such a voltage drop that everything else drops out.) But batteries are never "intermittently" discharged. Instead, this could be a (intermittent) bad connection between the battery and fuses - producing a big voltage drop that makes "everything go dead,"
How do we figure it out? Yeah, the multimeter.
Lexor15 is relatively new to the forum. Let's give him a few minutes to get his "signature" set up, and to start thinking like he wants to find just where this electrical problem is.
Then we can start (continue) giving him a hard time. If necessary.
"Everything goes dead when I try to start" is the sign of a discharged battery (the current draw of the starter causes such a voltage drop that everything else drops out.) But batteries are never "intermittently" discharged. Instead, this could be a (intermittent) bad connection between the battery and fuses - producing a big voltage drop that makes "everything go dead,"
How do we figure it out? Yeah, the multimeter.
03-02-2018, 07:52 PM
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Gentlemen -
Lexor15 is relatively new to the forum. Let's give him a few minutes to get his "signature" set up, and to start thinking like he wants to find just where this electrical problem is.
Then we can start (continue) giving him a hard time. If necessary.
"Everything goes dead when I try to start" is the sign of a discharged battery (the current draw of the starter causes such a voltage drop that everything else drops out.) But batteries are never "intermittently" discharged. Instead, this could be a (intermittent) bad connection between the battery and fuses - producing a big voltage drop that makes "everything go dead,"
How do we figure it out? Yeah, the multimeter.
Lexor15 is relatively new to the forum. Let's give him a few minutes to get his "signature" set up, and to start thinking like he wants to find just where this electrical problem is.
Then we can start (continue) giving him a hard time. If necessary.
"Everything goes dead when I try to start" is the sign of a discharged battery (the current draw of the starter causes such a voltage drop that everything else drops out.) But batteries are never "intermittently" discharged. Instead, this could be a (intermittent) bad connection between the battery and fuses - producing a big voltage drop that makes "everything go dead,"
How do we figure it out? Yeah, the multimeter.
03-02-2018, 07:55 PM
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I went out this morning and had a little surprise when my truck did not start like usual. It did start after a few tries, and was fine for a while, but now I know there is an electrical problem. I already replaced the starter relay (keeping old one for sure). Perhaps the starter solenoid? That would be my next point, unless you folks know better. The starter sounds very strong, when it engages. It cranks really well. I have a new battery (01/2018). This problem came out of nowhere! Any ideas?
