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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 04:21 AM
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Junkyard Trucks Have Missing Parts!

51 years old and still learning the hard lessons //sigh//

I picked up an 86 4Runner from a local salvage yard recently and I keep discovering missing parts. They said it 'ran and drove' in their ad but when it came down to business that changed to 'we were able to start it briefly'

To help sell the truck they had it parked by the road for months, unlocked, and with the hood unlocked too. (I guess they didn't know about the older Toyota hood release sticking if you pull the lever too hard)

Anyway, I guess they figured if they wrote NO PARTS on the windows/windshield that no one would steal from it? So far the parts I've discovered missing

5 speed shift knob
ECM
A/C Idle valve
Air Flow Meter (someone tried to steal it but was caught, so I just have to solder the wires back together)

I've now discovered the coil and igniter are gone too, so my search has begun. Rock auto shows the igniter out of stock. They have coils, but I'm thinking I'd also need a bracket that it probably doesn't come with.

I've loved these pickups and 4R's since they were brand new nearly 40 years ago, but my lack of internal knowledge on them has cost me about $500 in purchase price + $60 (ECM) and counting to get parts.

Does anyone have a coil/igniter for sale? Anyone know where igniters are available and what year models will work? Looking at Car-part dot com it looks like 85-89 will work. Also, when I search for them it often asks if it's a 65 or 53? How do I know this? This is an 86 DLX model with 22RE and 5 speed. Appreciate any input -Jeff


4 lonely plugs in this photo at 12, 5 and (2) at 10 o'clock, guessing at least 2 are for coil and igniter.

Just a further pic of L engine bay, just out of pic is another lonely connector bracketed to front of distributor, I assume goes to igniter?

R engine bay

This was about a month or 2 before I bought it, still had the shift knob on that day at least
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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 08:12 AM
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I don't know what the difference is between a 53 and a 65. There's only one wiring loom, so the connectors would be the same.
It could have something to do with a cold weather application, but that's just a wild guess. I'd say grab either one if you can.
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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 08:26 AM
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M y 86 truck coil/igniter pic
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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 10:03 AM
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Thanks guys, from what I've read it does sound like either 53 or 65 will work. I found one for $40 one state over, they are shipping it out today! Too bad the fenders weren't much better than mine or it may have been worth a road trip.

Thanks for the pic Joe! That will be very helpful. Is that the igniter you got from NAPA? I looked on the NAPA site and that part number you posted in another thread a few years ago doesn't even come up now.

Jeff


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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 10:21 AM
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It's been so long ago and my maintenance records got lost, so had to start again in 2011. I think I got it used actually.
The Master Blaster II H.O. coil is at least 25 years old and still going strong. Didn't really add any power, but did help with higher RPM not dropping off. .

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Old Feb 23, 2023 | 07:35 AM
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Hurricanes, what is the paint code on your truck by the tag under the hood- 3D7? I would love to see that paint buffed out. I know it will shine.
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Old Feb 23, 2023 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Melrose 4r
Hurricanes, what is the paint code on your truck by the tag under the hood- 3D7? I would love to see that paint buffed out. I know it will shine.
Yep it is 3D7 I researched it before on some site with a ton of codes but didn't have this one, maybe it's just Plain Ole Red ( :

I spit-shined a small spot on the cab roof and the top and both shined up nice! I was afraid the top being fiberglass it would never match the body again, but sure looks like it will. I kinda like the flat red though...

3D7 KN41 G292 W56

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Old Feb 27, 2023 | 07:27 AM
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This is not a missing part, just appears to have a broken cover, but the connection is also broken away from the bracket and I'm not sure if it should be attached for grounding purposes. Can anyone tell me what this is? 2 heavy gauge cables connected together.

Also the 2 connectors that are just being held in place in a rubber grommet on the inner fender, never seen anything like it. Guessing they are optional for something? Thanks!


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Old Feb 27, 2023 | 08:59 AM
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It's a junction block, and no, it doesn't ground to the body, though it was secured to the inner apron.
The wire on the back on the junction block is the short wire harness that plugs into the alternator(that black connector is part of it) The other connection at the block goes to the main engine harness. I definitely would take that connection apart and thoroughly clean. Having a cover would be nice to prevent accidental grounding. Maybe you could find a new block online. Sometimes the marine stores have cool stuff that's pretty heavy duty. I've used Blue Sea junction blocks on our RV.
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Old Feb 27, 2023 | 09:14 AM
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Thanks Jimkola, I'm definitelty going to clean it up! Hopefully it's not too hard to get that rusty nut off.

Any idea what the 2 'standby' connectors are, on the right?
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Old Feb 27, 2023 | 09:38 AM
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That's the early version for accessing DTC's.
I believe the smaller connector is your TE-E1 connection you jump to set timing
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Old Feb 27, 2023 | 09:59 AM
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On my 86, the smaller yellow connector is the timing jumper connector.
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Old Feb 28, 2023 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeS
On my 86, the smaller yellow connector is the timing jumper connector.
That’s the same as my ‘86. I wonder what the larger one does? Recently noticed my ‘87 doesn’t have either one.
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Old Feb 28, 2023 | 06:47 AM
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google is your friend. Most likely the top 10 answers will include a few old yotatech threads.
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Old Feb 28, 2023 | 07:23 AM
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That’s the same as my ‘86. I wonder what the larger one does? Recently noticed my ‘87 doesn’t have either one.
in '87, you access the codes/base timing by using the small diagnostic box on the passenger inner fender (the '86 and earlier don't have this box). same principle - use a jumper (paper clip) to connect T and E for the stored codes/base timing; jump B+ and Fp to test the fuel pump, etc. my guess, since i don't have the earlier system, is that the larger connector is used to jump the fuel pump.

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Old Feb 28, 2023 | 08:16 AM
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great stuff guys, really appreciate it. When you say 'stored codes' where are the codes displayed? Or do you need some type of OBD tool?

Jimkola I do try to Google the sh$& out of stuff before posting questions. i learned very early in my military career that I'd best not bring a question to my sergeant without checking the regulations first!
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great stuff guys, really appreciate it. When you say 'stored codes' where are the codes displayed? Or do you need some type of OBD tool?

Jimkola I do try to Google the sh$& out of stuff before posting questions. i learned very early in my military career that I'd best not bring a question to my sergeant without checking the regulations first!
the codes are stored by the ecu. the CEL will flash when correctly jumping the T/E ports prior to turning the key to "on", and the number of flashes indicates the stored code. the FSM will have the proper method for an '86 (I have '87 and '88 4runners and FSMs).
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Old Feb 28, 2023 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hurricanes
great stuff guys, really appreciate it. When you say 'stored codes' where are the codes displayed? Or do you need some type of OBD tool?

Jimkola I do try to Google the sh$& out of stuff before posting questions. i learned very early in my military career that I'd best not bring a question to my sergeant without checking the regulations first!
https://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTr...es/index.shtml
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