cbrsport17

They came off a 2nd gen surf out here in Okinawa, the 2nd gens had them before they changed up the headlights...i believe late 89 - early 91....

Belize Off Road Team

Are you sure of that? Cause i also use a UK Hilux Surf specific website and i have never seen that, cause it could have been the PO of the surf you saw swapped it over from the hilux due to the fact the MK 2 and 3 fit the surf 90-95. just curious.

cbrsport17

I know they have them on Hilux pickups as well, but they definitely came stock on the early 2nd gen surfs...every 89-91 surf has corners out here with the blinker integrated into them, unless the owner decides to put the newer corners in there...willing to bet money on it...I dont use a hilux surf specific website, i am just here in japan so i see it day to day....uk and japan have different specs, so that might be why the website differs from out here....

Belize Off Road Team

Thanks for the info, i see surfs everyday here too, but they're all 3rd gens + with a few 2nd gens. When i get my ARB bumper i will swap my corners so i can use driving lights in the indicator location on the bumper.

space-junk

iTrader: (1)

i wonder if anyone in japan ever spends money importing parts to make their surf into a 4runner??

SR5

i have FULL dim abiltiy

SR5

good question
well i know they import musle cars up their, they love them

cbrsport17

the most i see is they swap the surf badges for 4runner badges....

awareness

With all the interior lights converted to blue LED's, as am planning to do this myself, how much of that blue glow is evident when looking from the outside at the distance?

RobD

A bit, but obviously not as much as white. The biggest pain the rear end, though, is when you try to read anything under a blue light. The only thing I wish I had done differently would be to not replace the dome lights with blue. I'll probably end up installing white reading lights for that stuff, since I would prefer a more focused, brighter light for that, anyhow.

Matt16

Isn't blue the best for retaining you night-vision?

Belize Off Road Team

I dissagree Matt. i have reverse glow gauges that can change colour from blue to green or vise versa. Anyway when i use the blue guages it is VERY distracting and makes it harder to focas on the road where as the green is just fine cause its like the stock green.

Ritzy4Runner

iTrader: (1)

Both blue and red are better for night vision but the light wave length is different. Blue is a longer wave length so it can be seen farther away. That is why they use red on ships especially submarines is it will not carry as far.

Our eyes are normally attuned to the full spectrum of light (white) so using one end or the other of the light spectrum allows us to see things in under illuminated situtations more readily. Biggest reason most all police use blue lights they can be more intense and be seen farther away while at the same time do not saturate our eyes allowing for faster adjustment to low light situtations. Ever notice how when you pass a police car with flashing blues that you can see almost immediately after you pass but when I guy passes you with his headlights there is a momentary "blindness"? It has to do with the light wave length.

aviator

And we tend to swap 4runner badges for surf badges makes you wonder why Toyota did'nt just call it the Surf here...

aviator

Another problem is that under red light red printing/map lines disappear and under blue light blue marks disappear.
This why while most general cockpit area lighting is red for night time there are warm white "map lights" w/dimmer switches located in most yokes to illuminate the maps on the pilot's kneeboard. It can be a major PITA when they are'nt there or are U/S.

awareness

I was planning on doing blue in everything except the dome lights, which I'd do in white, since they're not on all the time and serve a purpose (like helping you read stuff).

I was also thinking of adding some extra's in behind the door handles and perhaps some shining backwards inside the heater vents. Not sure if that's easily pulled off though.

Swansen

I would recommend bulbs like these. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1157-...8746QQtcZphoto http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LED-1...5873QQtcZphotoThey are SMT LEDs and aren't quite class II LEDs, but they are a lot brighter than the class I 5mm LEDs that you find on most of these turn signals. Also, i have different units, but same LEDs on my truck, and they are BRIGHT, surprisingly.

SR5

id love to buy them, however the turn signals in the japanese lights are 194

awareness

Is the installation on these as simple as popping them into the regular sockets for the factory bulbs? Do you need a chip or anything to control the blink rate properly?

hazza0224

are the bulbs in side the dash wedge bulbs and how many do you need for every thing