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Old 02-01-2014, 04:46 AM
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My leaf springs in the rear are completely flat. And my back end sits very low. I want to raise it up and get new shocks. How do I go about doing this?
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Replace the springs or have a spring shop rework them are the only 2 real options
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zuk mod. that's my plan. and I tow a bit.
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Originally Posted by kennycess
I want to raise it up and get new shocks. How do I go about doing this?
Get new springs and shocks.

What your budget and how do you mainly use your truck?

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Old 02-01-2014, 02:43 PM
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zuk mod. that's my plan. and I tow a bit.
That is just going to mask the problem in the long run.
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If your planning on towing with it, and not doing a lot of serious off roading, then zuk mod. It rides rough but I pulled a 5000 lb load home (03 mustang, on 20 foot tandem trailer) with my 22re truck and it didn't feel overloaded. If you're planning serious offroading, the zuk mod will limit flex. The only time it rides good is when it has a load , however that might be to my choice of springs. I used stock 79-04 mustang rear springs. Also had to use longer shocks, it lifted it a bit.
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i only lightly off road hence the zuk mod. i tow a 90 mazda b22 weighs 2700 lbs wet on a car trailer that weighs about 1k. My springs are pretty flats and I'm a cheap ass. probly gonna get some 14" 100 lb springs.

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Also, had my zuk mod on for 15000 rough miles, and no negative effects. No broken leafs, blown shocks, or anything. Only the rough ride that goes away with weight in the bed
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What pound springs did y'all use?
I tow quiet alot and regularly haul 800# in the bed. And I have a salt spreader that goes in the receiver that loaded down wieghs 500+ pounds. Ride quality isnt hugely important. I do offroad but flex isnt very important. Also my drivers side spring has a little bit of negative arch. Also what diameter did you use?
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Mine are apparently 200lbs per inch, I just looked em up. It rides rough unloaded, but it done squat too far even with a heavy load. I actually had to spread my springs to get them in even with spring compressors, however my stock leaves were very worn and sagged. Here's some pics. As you can see its nowhere near the bump stops.
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Still flexes halfway decent too tho
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a set of airbags is also another option. will let you put air in to stiffen up the rear/raise it slightly, yet lets you remove the air to go back to the soft leafs if you want articulation.
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I used these on my old truck and they helped a lot. Plus the little added stiffness was nice for when I need to put torque to the ground.
Gabriel 43048 Rear Spring Assist Load Carrier Shocks - 2 Pack : Amazon.com : Automotive Gabriel 43048 Rear Spring Assist Load Carrier Shocks - 2 Pack : Amazon.com : Automotive
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Get your springs reworked if you plan on leaving it stock. Replace them if not.
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Originally Posted by rattlewagon
Get new springs and shocks.
What your budget and how do you mainly use your truck?
^^Good questions for O.P. to ask himself.

If you got less than $100, Zuk. If done well, on a lightly used truck, it works well to restore stock height. Ask me.

If you got a few hundred bucks, replace the springs or have a spring shop rework them like CJM says ^^
Drawback to re-arching stock springs is they're still the same poorly designed springs.

A better, clean and robust solution, would be upgrade to Old Man Emu's. Little more expensive but worth it IF you plan to keep the truck. Who best to ask about this? Defrag and Ruined Adventure who drove their OME-equipped 4Runners all the way to "the End of America" and back - more than many of us 4Runners owners could only dream of doing.

OME upgrade has it's own complications and price, though:
It would add 2 inches of lift over stock, so you need to raise front to even it up. How to lift front? B.J spacers, or again upgrade with OME torsion bars?
Issue with leaf spring pack clip bolt head hitting pinch weld of fuel tank.

If shocks are bad, gotta replace them, regardless of whether you Zuk or you replace/rework leafs. If going OME, still need longer shocks for the added lift.

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Has anyone used 150# springs? If so how do they work? Also anyone who has used 125 # how well does it tow/ haul now? Was size diameter do I need also? 3"? 12" tall? They are goin on a tacoma

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Originally Posted by RAD4Runner
^^Good questions for O.P. to ask himself.

If you got less than $100, Zuk. If done well, on a lightly used truck, it works well to restore stock height. Ask me.

If you got a few hundred bucks, replace the springs or have a spring shop rework them like CJM says ^^
Drawback to re-arching stock springs is they're still the same poorly designed springs.

A better, clean and robust solution, would be upgrade to Old Man Emu's. Little more expensive but worth it IF you plan to keep the truck. Who best to ask about this? Defrag and Ruined Adventure who drove their OME-equipped 4Runners all the way to "the End of America" and back - more than many of us 4Runners could only dream of doing.

OME upgrade has it's own complications and price, though:
It would add 2 inches of lift over stock, so you need to raise front to even it up. How to lift front? B.J spacers, or again upgrade with OME torsion bars?
Issue with leaf spring pack clip bolt head hitting pinch weld of fuel tank.

If shocks are bad, gotta replace them, regardless of whether you Zuk or you replace/rework leafs. If going OME, still need longer shocks for the added lift.
What is the OME upgrade?
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What is the OME upgrade?
Old Man Emu (OME) leaf springs and Torsion bar upgrade.
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I just replaced the springs with the stock ones from General Spring out of Kansas City great people to deal with.

On my Tacoma I went with the New Stock springs and Super Springs which I just Love.

Rearched springs just seem to flatten out in a short time a year or 2 I would not recommend going that route.

It does come down to the Budget$$$
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