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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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These engines are a non-interface type, so even with the timing chain slipping no valves or pistons were touched.
You sure about that?
22re is a interference engine
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/2...uestion-71733/
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
X2...did you pick this up in New Orleans 9th ward?
That's funny. It does look like flood damage, doesn't it?

My concern with flushing it out with solvent/atf/whatever is that dirt, grease, and grime probably comprise a large portion of the bearing surfaces.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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maybe a couple of the valves burned, could be the cause of the compression loss
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by desert-rat660
maybe a couple of the valves burned, could be the cause of the compression loss
I think the major cause of the compression loss is that the cam is about 45 degrees out of time with the crank. But, I'll probably end up doing a valve job on it anyway.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Just pull it and rebuilt it , it will start , does look nasty tho.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by desconhecido
I think the major cause of the compression loss is that the cam is about 45 degrees out of time with the crank. But, I'll probably end up doing a valve job on it anyway.
might aswell 22re parts arent that expensive, and atleast you only have 8 valves to deal with
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 874runnersr5
You sure about that?
22re is a interference engine
http://www.lcengineering.com/Inst/1022027.htm Last paragraph explains the process to insure that it is a non-interfacing engine.

http://race-dezert.com/forum/archive...p/t-43735.html but this says depends on year and piston. But goes on to say that it is still unlikely to happen. But I don't know.

I still say chage time chain and cover. Spin the engine by hand to see if any valves a obviuosly stuck. See if it starts if so tune-up and frequent oil changes maybe a flush. And run it. If it runs you've got less tha a hundred bucks in to it. If you pull the head you have to replace HG and the price starts to increase. If it don't run and you rebuild you already got a new timing chain and cover.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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wow... I've seen, and taken apart some dirty motor's insides before in the past, but I think that tops the cake man...

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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by muddpigg
http://www.lcengineering.com/Inst/1022027.htm Last paragraph explains the process to insure that it is a non-interfacing engine.

http://race-dezert.com/forum/archive...p/t-43735.html but this says depends on year and piston. But goes on to say that it is still unlikely to happen. But I don't know.

I still say chage time chain and cover. Spin the engine by hand to see if any valves a obviuosly stuck. See if it starts if so tune-up and frequent oil changes maybe a flush. And run it. If it runs you've got less tha a hundred bucks in to it. If you pull the head you have to replace HG and the price starts to increase. If it don't run and you rebuild you already got a new timing chain and cover.
hmm, i think this is going to be one of the questions that never get answered haha.

either or, better safe then sorry no?
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Think your right. May have been unscathed but my have bent every valve in the head. I don't know.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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ah, thats so insane thoe.
i cant belive its that dirty... to only think what the pan looks like, the crank, timing cover area.. the oilpickup tube..
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 874runnersr5
ah, thats so insane thoe.
i cant belive its that dirty... to only think what the pan looks like, the crank, timing cover area.. the oilpickup tube..
oh yes, you must post more pics of this process...
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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check to see how the rad is, im assuming it was ran just with water...
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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all i have to say is WOW!!!! i thought that mine was bad when i got it....it looks new compared to that!!!!!
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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It's got four new plugs, clean oil and fresh antifreeze. Probably all done trying to get it running after it jumped time. So, if the head gaskets gone (which is possible) or the timing cover has warn through, there' no obvious evidence till I get the front end apart.

I've got some old stuff I need to get sold on ebay and then I'm going start in in the engine. I'll post some progress picks, for those with strong constitutions.
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