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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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4runner v6 vs p/u 22r

Iv got a 89 toyota pickup thats been redone with a 22r, but we have a 89 4runner v6 in the family, its nice but the engine has seen better days but i could probly get it for about 1,000 which would u guys pick i kinda like the 4runner for off roading since my truck is 2wd. and would u recommend the v6 ?
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Nobody on yotatech would recommend getting a 3VZ-E over a 22R/RE. At least I hope not.

Only drawback is that your truck is 2wd. Maybe if you get the 4runner for cheap, you could put the 4wd on your truck. If its a 1st gen 4runner, the swap wouldn't be too bad.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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both are 2nd gen
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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Get the runner, and rebuild the 3.0, or if it could be afforded, do s 3.4 swap.....but there's alot in doing a 3.4 swap......from what I understand.

Keep the pickup as the daily, and the 4runner for play.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Ok, I take that back. I'm guessing whoever would choose a 3.0 over a 22R probably voted for Obama also....jk jk

Not very important that they are both 2nd gens, I was assuming that your truck was a 1st gen, either way if they are the same gen putting the 4wd components into the truck is MUCH simpler than doing a 3.4 swap, not to mention a few thousand $$ cheaper.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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will i was thinking of geting the 4runner and geting a lg engineering 3VZ-E but need to pay for college before i do that
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PismoJoe
Not very important that they are both 2nd gens, I was assuming that your truck was a 1st gen, either way if they are the same gen putting the 4wd components into the truck is MUCH simpler than doing a 3.4 swap, not to mention a few thousand $$ cheaper.
Whaaat? How so? There is a lot involved in doing a 2wd to 4wd swap The frames are different. Its not like a pre-runner Tacoma vs a 4wd Tacoma, which have the same suspension, just pre-runner doesn't have the t-case and front driveline.

Anywho. '89 2nd gen 4runner? Doesn't exist. It could have been made in '89 as a '90 model year. If it were an '88 or '89 1st gen with a v6, I would say get it as those two years had the asbestos head gaskets which caused them not to fail as often.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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I like my 3vze It blows past 22re's anytime of the week hehe. Also pretty hard to get this motor to stall out on you, ive had it down to 0rpm and it kicked back up..
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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well you might have to fab some mounts in, but the room for 4wd parts is there. Im just saying its easier compared to a 3.4 swap and he already has the parts.

I was going off what he said about them being both second gens, I forgot only the truck got the facelift in late 89 and then the 4runner changed in 90.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Converting the 2wd to 4x4 with SFA would offer you a little more "flex" (not sure how much, but I have been told this by a Toyota Tech) than a SASed 4x4 from the same year range, but it'll be a fair bit of work to do, not to mention expensive after basically swapping out you're entire drivetrain. If your truck is 5spd from stock then you'll have to hunt down a rear axle (or maybe just the 3rd, I think the axle housings are the same) as well since it's probably a 7.5" R&P, though you can check your axle code for this. If it's got an F in it near the end, it'll be a 7.5", but a G means 8". For example: X...XG663G40 means G40 tranny, 8" R&P and a terribly low gear ratio with 2 spiders but, if you see something like X...XF662W55 or something like that, it'll mean W55 tranny, 7.5" R&P, and a terribly low gear ratio with 2 spiders. At the very least you -will- need to regear the 3rd, no 4x4 came with 3.071 (this is what my 4spd 2wd is, likely a little different in 5spd trucks) gearing stock from what I've read.

In the end a 3.4L swap on the runner would probably cost you a lot less and be far less work, but then again, it's always fun to do something that fewer people seem to have done before. If your heart is set on having a 4x4 I'd say to do the conversion on the truck, even though I think a 2wd truck should always stay 2wd and would never consider doing it myself.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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i dont wana make my truck 4x4 haha just asking which would people recommend more a 3vze 4runner that needs work or a redone 22r pickup
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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I say grab the 4runner and wheel it, and keep the pickup as the daily driver.


$1,000 is pretty cheap, if the trucks in good shape. You could easily work on it if it's not your everyday vehicle, and if it breaks down on you, you've still got your pickup.
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