jms3251

i just dropped a used 22re engine into my 1993 pickup and i got evreything hooked up. i got inside to turn the key and nothing happend, the battery is good and the dash lights and radio and evreything works except it dosent start, i went and got the starter tested and it was good. anybody got any ideas?

whorider

Have you jumped the signal wire at the starter? Are you getting a signal (B+) there when turning key to crank position?

jms3251

honestly i dont know how to do that, im not exactly an expert when it comes to cars, what would i do?

abecedarian

the small wire that plugs into the starter. do you get voltage there when you turn the key on? if you make a jumper wire from the large terminal on the starter (the one coming from the battery) and touch it to the small terminal, will the starter spin? (I'm guessing it will since the parts people tested yours).

jms3251

ok i will try that this afternoon and if it is not getting voltage down through that plug then could i just splice in another one and yes the starter will spin but when i turn the key nothing happens,

abecedarian

forgot to ask if
it's a manual (did you hook up the clutch safety switch?)
or
it's an automatic (did you hook up the park/neutral safety switch?)

if you did and are still not getting voltage on the starter from the ignition switch, you might want to give this a look:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...l#OtherOptions

jms3251

its a manual and yes i am pretty sure we hooked it up, when u mash the button the light comes on but even when we have the clutch pressed in it still does nothing

jms3251

ok i read the article you suggested and the relay is clicking so i am just gonna test it and then i will let you know what happens, but thank you for helping

4Crawler

iTrader: (3)

By "relay clicking" I assume you are referring to the CO relay in the passenger side foot well area. If so, that is normal. The only reason you hear it because the starter is not running, so it is a symptom but not the problem (which is the starter not running). You can do the simple voltage check described below to help isolate the source of the starter not running problem:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...shtml#EasyTest

jms3251

well it sounds like it is under the hood around the fuse box

jms3251

what could that be?

4Crawler

iTrader: (3)

If it is up front, that may be the starter relay, usually on the passenger side fender. A metal relay can typically labeled as "Starter Relay". If that relay clicks and the starter does not work, likely problem is burnt contacts in that relay or a poor voltage feed to it from the ignition switch. The voltage test will help tell you which.

jms3251

ok well i tested the plug that goes into the starter and of course nothing, i traced the wire all the way up to the firewall and even tested it there and it is not getting any power but the rest of them are, a freind of mine suggested a ground strap that goes arond the motor mounts to ground the motor to the frame, i looked and looked and could not find what he was talking about, what is it and where might it be located?

4Crawler

iTrader: (3)

Well, if there is no voltage to the starter solenoid, then the problem is not in the starter. Figure out why there is no voltage to that wire, it is needed to engage the solenoid which in turn makes the starter motor run.

Ground strap should be up by the passenger side motor mount, at least that is where is is on my '85. For a quick test to rule out or confirm grounding issues, grab a battery jumper cable and connect one end of the black cable to the battery "-" post and the other end of the black cable to the engine block down near the starter. If that helps, you have a ground problem, if it makes no difference, then you don't.

jms3251

ok well he told us to try the jumper cable thing and it didnt make any difference, the crazy thing is that it was working fine before we dropped the other motor in and now nothing but like i said we tested the wire all the way up past the wiring harness and nothing

abecedarian

checked your fuses?

jms3251

yep all good, even the purple starter one, we bought a new one and replaced it and still nothing