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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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22R or 22RE

Hey guys I am soon trading my 88 pickup for an 84 pickup. the engine in the 84 is a bit tired. Should i just rebuild the 22R or rebuild a 22RE and swap that in. Any ups and downs for the two ideas?

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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Rebuild 22R- No wiring, keeps "originality value", less troubles to deal with upon reinstallation. You will still be carb'd when all is said and done.

Swap 22RE- All the Usual Benefits of EFI, Driveability, Fuel Economy, Performance on Hills. Will require wiring and expertise, and you loose originality of the truck.

I believe your 84 has the early style 22r so don't plan to exchange any engine parts between the two in any case.

Personal Opinion- I'd rebuild the 22r and throw in a double-row timing chain. Will be very reliable and with a properly tuned carb will perform fine.

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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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how about BUILD the 22r..

bore it slightly..like maybe .030...throw a 268* cam in there...get ya a header and a free flowing exhaust...get a weber 32/36 or a 34/34.

get rid of all the EGR crap as well..and yes do the double row timing chain..lol
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
how about BUILD the 22r..

bore it slightly..like maybe .030...throw a 268* cam in there...get ya a header and a free flowing exhaust...get a weber 32/36 or a 34/34.

get rid of all the EGR crap as well..and yes do the double row timing chain..lol
Don't forget to put on a 20R head, and get a ton more power than you could with the EFI...
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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I had an 83 before I bought my 88 and i dident have any issues with the carb on that truck. So i think i may just take your guys advise and keep the 22R. Because now that i think more about it all that extra crap that the 22RE has dose tend to be a bit annoying at times.

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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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im switching my 22r to a 22re and its a pain. you have to switch everything including the wire harness and the gauges. if i had to do it again id just rebuild the 22r no matter how much i hate it in the cold and on hills.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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i would just keep the 22r and maybe build it a little. is the 22r that much slower on the hills then the 22re? my 22re dogs it but i didnt know the 22re was that much better?
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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In the future if you decide you want a fuel injected 4cyl look into a 3rz. They put 150hp and still get good mileage.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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ok so i have another question. To what point on inclines and side hills will a carb handle? On my 83 I about had it on its side against a tree and it was still running fine. Although that was with a stock carb. My new truck has a webber on it, so you think i will encounter any problems?

thx in advance
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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Probably, from what i hear the webers are pretty sensitive compared to the aisins.
Find a used aisin and rebuild it.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:12 AM
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that true i went throught 3 webers then picked up a couple aisins and only used one till i got my 22re put in
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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I have owned both now, the carb'd was better IMHO it ran beautifully, and for some reason got alot better mileage than my EFI
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:58 AM
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I've had to adjust my choke because my 22r wasn't loving the cold mornings. Now, it starts right up. Whether it is a Weber or the stock carb - if it isn't adjusted properly - they will both give you an issue on a cold day.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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ok so between the webber and the aisin, would i lose any noticable power switching back to an aisin? I was just thinking about rebuilding the webber that is on it now
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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here in az, ive had problems on steep climbs, or when my front end is up in the air on rocks.

having no tcase gears makes it worse when the clutch gets hot by teh end of the day, sometimes the truck wont want to start unless i sit there pumping teh gas and rev it a load to get it started.
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