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Old 07-09-2015, 12:17 PM   #1
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1985 22r pickup, no spark but engine cranks

Hello Yotatech ! I am in need of assistance with my 1985 Toyota pickup with a 22r engine. I drove off to go to work and it sounded a little rough, died at a stop sign, and then cranks, but won't start. I wasn't getting any spark, so I replaced the distributor cap/rotor, and plug wires. I also replaced the ignition coil. There are no blown fuses or fuseable links. I am not very savvy about this truck since it has always run fine & not needed repair for 150,000 miles. I ordered a new ingnitor that will be here tomorrow, but I have also seen talk of a coil in the distibutor being bad, but can't seem to find very esay instructions to for a 1st timer that hasn't had to do timing adjustments(if that is even needed to replace the coil). I seem to be able to smell fuel after cranking, so I hope the fuel pump still works, but don't know how to check it. I have also read of a cranking sensor that will cut the fuel and electric, but don't know how to get to it. I suppose if I could find a reliable way to check the fuel pump, then I would at least know that it wasn't the cranking sensor.Any help out there for novice YotaTecher?
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Try the Haynes manual? I will check my copy for the coil you are talking about and take a picture of it for you if it says anything. That said, I wouldn't necessarily worry about the fuel smell-if you have no spark then you're just dumping fuel into the cylinders when you crank it, so it's going to smell a little bit.
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Sorry replied on the wrong thread here

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Hello Yotatech ! I am in need of assistance with my 1985 Toyota pickup with a 22r engine. I drove off to go to work and it sounded a little rough, died at a stop sign, and then cranks, but won't start. I wasn't getting any spark, so I replaced the distributor cap/rotor, and plug wires. I also replaced the ignition coil. There are no blown fuses or fuseable links. I am not very savvy about this truck since it has always run fine & not needed repair for 150,000 miles. I ordered a new ingnitor that will be here tomorrow, but I have also seen talk of a coil in the distibutor being bad, but can't seem to find very esay instructions to for a 1st timer that hasn't had to do timing adjustments(if that is even needed to replace the coil). I seem to be able to smell fuel after cranking, so I hope the fuel pump still works, but don't know how to check it. I have also read of a cranking sensor that will cut the fuel and electric, but don't know how to get to it. I suppose if I could find a reliable way to check the fuel pump, then I would at least know that it wasn't the cranking sensor.Any help out there for novice YotaTecher?
My 83 did the same thing check the sparkplugs
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:56 PM   #5
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Hi Sandyota....my 1985 base pickup 22r did exactly the same thing as yours. In fact, I could have written verbatim your post as I've walked in those same shoes.

Did you ever find the answer?

It's been 10 months now for me, and we haven't been able to diagnose the problem. I'm not a mechanic, but my two older brothers have each worked in garages and offered a helping hand to their little brother (me) to no avail. Like you we started by putting in new sparkplugs, changed out the alternator, and then replaced the distributor cap and plug wires with new OEM parts. The battery is new and has a charge. Still, nothing.

Before it stalled on me on Christmas Eve, 2015 at a red light near the mall (ugh), I noted that from time to time it would die on me when I used gas that had 10% ethanol. So we siphoned all the gas out of the tank, replaced the fuel filter, and poured new 100% gasoline. Still nothing.

I appreciate any advice/help you may offer.
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3 main areas to check in this order:

Signal Generator (better known as a pickup coil). Ohm it out - It should register 140-180 ohms.

Ignition Coil

Ignitor
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What do you do when you put all new components into your ignition system and still have no spark?
My 85 Xtra-Cab lost spark a week ago and nothing has helped and nothing includes a completely new ignition system of new igniter, new ignition coil and new pickup coil, she'll crank all day and not fire.
I'm at my wit's end and am about to call in a professional unless one of you has a fix I can perform.
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What do you do when you put all new components into your ignition system and still have no spark?
My 85 Xtra-Cab lost spark a week ago and nothing has helped and nothing includes a completely new ignition system of new igniter, new ignition coil and new pickup coil, she'll crank all day and not fire.
I'm at my wit's end and am about to call in a professional unless one of you has a fix I can perform.
I have a thread from a couple months ago with the same symptoms. I replaced everything with no luck. My distributor gap was WAY off, and I replaced all plugs and wires, in addition to what you mentioned. Do that, and do the FSM troubleshooting steps. Then it was a matter of cranking and pressing the gas a bit. Since then it starts on the first or second crank.

There is a possibility you got bad parts, but the troubleshooting would help you identify those. User CO_pu_94 was very helpful.
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I've done all that and everything I can think of is within spec, none of the old parts were bad but, I changed them anyway because something is bad and pissing me off.
I have requests for info to all of my more knowledgeable which is everyone I know trying to find someone that can give me a damn clue.
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I've done all that and everything I can think of is within spec, none of the old parts were bad but, I changed them anyway because something is bad and pissing me off.
I have requests for info to all of my more knowledgeable which is everyone I know trying to find someone that can give me a damn clue.
Sometimes these things can be a very simple little bit. Back in the 70s I was helping a friend chase a no firing ignition. Threw various parts at it, including a new rotor, which he . . . forgot to put in the distributor.

Are your grounds all good? All the wires plugged into the right place etc. Try going back to the basics.
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:28 PM   #11
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This has got to be the most freaky no spark issue ever because I know how to check and change the ignition system in my Yota but, this is not a normal no spark issue.
There was an audible pop the 1st time she wouldn't start like she almost did and then pop, no spark and no parts thrown at it have done any good.
New GM ignition module, Toyota parts fresh out of the box, it didn't do dick and I missed out on the biggest 4x4 event of March in So Cal.
Oh well, it must be a sign to buy a 2004 V6 Taco with air conditioning and put my 85 solid axle and other 4x4 components in including the dual transfer cases via an adapter.

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Well, new here guys, but I just replaced my second igniter. Running fine and then dead, cranked over, no start. The new ones are very expensive, so used parts work. I even have an extra one in the truck now for next time. Good luck.
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I fixed my rig by replacing the distributor.
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