Knock coming from chain, piston, or valve clatter?
#1
Knock coming from chain, piston, or valve clatter?
#4
Take a mechanics stethoscope and listen along the bottom of the block and oil pan junction, it will get louder or quieter as you move towards and away from the source
You can also ground or unplug the spark wires one at a time.
Judging by how loud that is you've done more damage than just spun the bearing and are running it dry, it sounds like the bearing is gone completely.
#5
I Agree that is most likely rod knock. If the people you took it to couldn't tell you this you probably don't want them working on it anyway.
Take a mechanics stethoscope and listen along the bottom of the block and oil pan junction, it will get louder or quieter as you move towards and away from the source
You can also ground or unplug the spark wires one at a time.
Judging by how loud that is you've done more damage than just spun the bearing and are running it dry, it sounds like the bearing is gone completely.
Take a mechanics stethoscope and listen along the bottom of the block and oil pan junction, it will get louder or quieter as you move towards and away from the source
You can also ground or unplug the spark wires one at a time.
Judging by how loud that is you've done more damage than just spun the bearing and are running it dry, it sounds like the bearing is gone completely.
@swampedout Sorry you can t see the videos. They work on my end, they are mg4 if that helps.
#6
This has been there since I bought the truck 5 years ago. The truck runs, but it shakes at the lights and it sounds like a diesel, Lol. In order to fix this, it will require a rebuilt, is that correct? Also will this break on me on the road and live me stranded or just sound and act like this for ever? I have been changing the oil religiously, have been staying with 20-50 weight feels like it runs smoother. Also been adding in oil stabilizers ever other oil change.
Yes, it could break while you're on the road; it might be tomorrow, it might be in 3 years.
The way I see it, you've got 5 years on a bad rod bearing (or lack of a bearing at this point), if it's within your means, get it fixed.
#7
Was the engine cold or hot in the video? Is it quieter when at full operating temp? Does it consume a lot of oil?
As Co says, unplug spark plug wires one at a time to isolate which cylinder.
It could be a wrist pin, cracked piston, not a bearing. I don’t know how you could drive 5 years on a bad rod bearing.
My truck has wrist pin noise, sounds bad when overnight temps drop and you put a load on it before it’s up to temp.
you can’t fix it without a complete teardown. If rod bearing, you could go in through the oil pan.
As Co says, unplug spark plug wires one at a time to isolate which cylinder.
It could be a wrist pin, cracked piston, not a bearing. I don’t know how you could drive 5 years on a bad rod bearing.
My truck has wrist pin noise, sounds bad when overnight temps drop and you put a load on it before it’s up to temp.
you can’t fix it without a complete teardown. If rod bearing, you could go in through the oil pan.
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Was the engine cold or hot in the video? Is it quieter when at full operating temp? Does it consume a lot of oil?
As Co says, unplug spark plug wires one at a time to isolate which cylinder.
It could be a wrist pin, cracked piston, not a bearing. I don’t know how you could drive 5 years on a bad rod bearing.
My truck has wrist pin noise, sounds bad when overnight temps drop and you put a load on it before it’s up to temp.
you can’t fix it without a complete teardown. If rod bearing, you could go in through the oil pan.
As Co says, unplug spark plug wires one at a time to isolate which cylinder.
It could be a wrist pin, cracked piston, not a bearing. I don’t know how you could drive 5 years on a bad rod bearing.
My truck has wrist pin noise, sounds bad when overnight temps drop and you put a load on it before it’s up to temp.
you can’t fix it without a complete teardown. If rod bearing, you could go in through the oil pan.
Bearings and wrist pins are the opposite, they'll be quiet at first when the oil is still cold and thick, but as the engine warms up and the oil thins out you'll start to hear that metal on metal.
#9
Was the engine cold or hot in the video? Is it quieter when at full operating temp? Does it consume a lot of oil?
As Co says, unplug spark plug wires one at a time to isolate which cylinder.
It could be a wrist pin, cracked piston, not a bearing. I don’t know how you could drive 5 years on a bad rod bearing.
My truck has wrist pin noise, sounds bad when overnight temps drop and you put a load on it before it’s up to temp.
you can’t fix it without a complete teardown. If rod bearing, you could go in through the oil pan.
As Co says, unplug spark plug wires one at a time to isolate which cylinder.
It could be a wrist pin, cracked piston, not a bearing. I don’t know how you could drive 5 years on a bad rod bearing.
My truck has wrist pin noise, sounds bad when overnight temps drop and you put a load on it before it’s up to temp.
you can’t fix it without a complete teardown. If rod bearing, you could go in through the oil pan.
#10
It's a little hard to tell from the videos. At the very least, remove the valve cover, get a strong light and have a real good look at the timing chain & guides. When you say the sound goes away at revs (I assume you mean engine speeds faster than idle?), that's usually a sign of a wron out timing chain or broken chain guide, usually the driver's side guide. More rarely it could be the tensioner not fully extending to take up chain slack, but more likely your timing chain is just worn out and the tensioner cannot make up for it. Do what Co says, locate the noise to a more specific location. If you can narrow the noise down to the front driver's side of the engine, at the timing cover about half-way down, it's the chain and/or guide. If not it's something else.
Another thought before you pull the valve cover. Get a timing light on it and check the timing mark on the crank pulley while it's running/idling. If the mark isn't in a steady location with every flash but jumps around, it's likely the timing chain. My 20R did this just before the chain jumped a tooth, timing mark jumping all over the place. New timing chain set installed and the timing mark is rock steady at idle.
Another thought before you pull the valve cover. Get a timing light on it and check the timing mark on the crank pulley while it's running/idling. If the mark isn't in a steady location with every flash but jumps around, it's likely the timing chain. My 20R did this just before the chain jumped a tooth, timing mark jumping all over the place. New timing chain set installed and the timing mark is rock steady at idle.
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