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I'd say high quality parts, like OEM replacement for stock stuff and a reputible aftermarket company for the bigger/badder go-fast stuff. Cheap parts are nice, but you get what you pay for in the end. All the problems I've had with mine can be traced back to skimping on parts or inexperience/stupidity on my part. I wish I had somone else to blame for some of the bonehead stuff with my truck, but it's just a younger me.
I really like LC Engineering, but they are pricey. Check out the profile for Suncomb1. He has one of their stage 5 (stroker I think) engines in his truck. He swears by LC and says he wouldn't go through anyone else. I believe he said he gets 200hp out of the engine with a 125 shot nitrous dialed back so he has 285hp available all the time. He also says it's a very reliable engine.
If those kind of engines are out of your price range like they are for me, they still have great components. Don't skimp on the machene work on the engine. Find the shop near you that all the local hot rod guys use. Not sure why/how you keep throwing rods, pretty hard to do with these engines IMO, but maybe you need to install a ignition system with a rev limiter? Just a thought.
I really like LC Engineering, but they are pricey. Check out the profile for Suncomb1. He has one of their stage 5 (stroker I think) engines in his truck. He swears by LC and says he wouldn't go through anyone else. I believe he said he gets 200hp out of the engine with a 125 shot nitrous dialed back so he has 285hp available all the time. He also says it's a very reliable engine.
If those kind of engines are out of your price range like they are for me, they still have great components. Don't skimp on the machene work on the engine. Find the shop near you that all the local hot rod guys use. Not sure why/how you keep throwing rods, pretty hard to do with these engines IMO, but maybe you need to install a ignition system with a rev limiter? Just a thought.
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I've got an '85 with a 22re in it, I mud and hunt in this truck. If you have messed up two engines in one month, then either something was wrong with the motors before you got them or you *no offense* need to learn how to drive them.
Shifting isn't a bad thing, you can get just as far in the mud with brains and thinking as you can with the skinny pedal in first gear.
Shifting isn't a bad thing, you can get just as far in the mud with brains and thinking as you can with the skinny pedal in first gear.
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I have thought about the rev limiter and machine work around here is kinda costly but yeah it probably is me and it was in 3rd when this one gave i know better than keeping it in first very rarely unless goin through somethin i might get stuck in. What are some good modification to do to a 22r
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I have thought about the rev limiter and machine work around here is kinda costly but yeah it probably is me and it was in 3rd when this one gave i know better than keeping it in first very rarely unless goin through somethin i might get stuck in. What are some good modification to do to a 22r
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Well think i decided tonight to go with 305 or 350 put chevy 1/2 ton axles under it with like some 40 inch tires. Now what is the best way to lift these things. Chevy leaf springs or Toyota?
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Well think i decided tonight after goin mudding with some buddies to go with 305 or 350 put chevy 1/2 ton axles under it with like some 40 inch tires. Now what is the best way to lift these things. Chevy leaf springs or Toyota?
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I don't have any experience with the chevy springs. I'm using trail gear front and rear with some leafs pulled. I think from what I've read the 63 chevys are real flexy, but don't give much lift. I think it kinda depends on what wheeling your doing. Crawling, maybe Chevys and trim the body to keep it low with lots of flex. I mostly sand, mud and trail mine. It's pretty tall with 37's, but its also pretty wide. It does what I need. You'll get some feedback from others with chevys too.
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Totally agree. My 30 year old 22R is bone stock. I bought it after it already had 225,000 on it (more, since it has 31s on it, and odometer runs short). No idea how it has been treated, whether it has had oil changes, or abused in the desert much.
It ran and drove from Arizona to Kansas City when I bought it, got 22mpg. When I got it home, all I did was clean and lube the left front lock, put new plugs in it, set timing (didn't need it), put a fuel pump in it within 500 miles, and a new battery when it got cold this Fall. It has a minor oil leak, but starts up easy, runs great after warmed up. Starts instantly after warmed up. Idles perfect, responds no problem. Now at 230,000 miles.
btw- I have a neighbor that is a GM/Chevy-head. He is a veteran fabricator, hand built his own T-bucket. He had to replace the V6 in his wife's Pontiac at 100k miles, and then had to replace a head gasket before another 100k miles. He doesn't understand why I like my 4 cylinder Volkswagen TDI (2013 Passat), which gets me nearly 40pmg mostly city driving, and makes 236 ft-lb torque. He tells me I should put a 350 in the Toyota. No way. I'll stick with 22R. As you say, Bingle....It is, IN FACT, one of the reasons it is such a great truck. The 22R is more dependable. Besides, there is SO much room to work around it in that engine bay. Hard to beat the combination of durability, ease of working on it, plenty of torque at ~2500 rpm.
If I were going to consider ANY engine besides the 22r, it would be the '90-'93 1.9 or 2.0 liter ALH TDI. No more work than the Chevy 250 conversion, but a MUCH more dependable engine, and twice the torque of my 22R. It would even get 30+ mpg. Now there is a worth while conversion! It even rotates the otherwise inaccessible timing belt to the front, where it SHOULD be!
I've owned two used vehicles with V8 engines. The fuel consumption was amazing, and the performance didn't make up for it. But I admit, I do not race, and don't do mud bogs where power and inertia can mean the difference between reaching the other side, or swimming!
It ran and drove from Arizona to Kansas City when I bought it, got 22mpg. When I got it home, all I did was clean and lube the left front lock, put new plugs in it, set timing (didn't need it), put a fuel pump in it within 500 miles, and a new battery when it got cold this Fall. It has a minor oil leak, but starts up easy, runs great after warmed up. Starts instantly after warmed up. Idles perfect, responds no problem. Now at 230,000 miles.
btw- I have a neighbor that is a GM/Chevy-head. He is a veteran fabricator, hand built his own T-bucket. He had to replace the V6 in his wife's Pontiac at 100k miles, and then had to replace a head gasket before another 100k miles. He doesn't understand why I like my 4 cylinder Volkswagen TDI (2013 Passat), which gets me nearly 40pmg mostly city driving, and makes 236 ft-lb torque. He tells me I should put a 350 in the Toyota. No way. I'll stick with 22R. As you say, Bingle....It is, IN FACT, one of the reasons it is such a great truck. The 22R is more dependable. Besides, there is SO much room to work around it in that engine bay. Hard to beat the combination of durability, ease of working on it, plenty of torque at ~2500 rpm.
If I were going to consider ANY engine besides the 22r, it would be the '90-'93 1.9 or 2.0 liter ALH TDI. No more work than the Chevy 250 conversion, but a MUCH more dependable engine, and twice the torque of my 22R. It would even get 30+ mpg. Now there is a worth while conversion! It even rotates the otherwise inaccessible timing belt to the front, where it SHOULD be!
I've owned two used vehicles with V8 engines. The fuel consumption was amazing, and the performance didn't make up for it. But I admit, I do not race, and don't do mud bogs where power and inertia can mean the difference between reaching the other side, or swimming!
22R not hold up?????? Seriously?
I had 420,000 miles on my original engine. It didn't die, it just got really tired. The truck was used and abused before I got it as my first car at 383k mi. It was my daily driver so I didn't have time to rebuild so I just threw a 200k mi junkyard engine in (that ran like a top) while I saved money to rebuild/get performance parts on the original (I was a led footed high school/college kid). I have about 80k on my rebuild and I still drive it like I stole it 75% of the time. Show me a 350 with over 200k that hasn't been babied it's whole life.
Do what you want. 350's are a fine engine, but don't go claiming they hold up better than a 22R, especially not on this site. Half the reason people love these trucks so much is because the engines are so bomb proof.
Well, enough of that rant. Not trying to flame ya, just expressing my very strong opinion on the subject. Good luck with whatever engine you choose.
I had 420,000 miles on my original engine. It didn't die, it just got really tired. The truck was used and abused before I got it as my first car at 383k mi. It was my daily driver so I didn't have time to rebuild so I just threw a 200k mi junkyard engine in (that ran like a top) while I saved money to rebuild/get performance parts on the original (I was a led footed high school/college kid). I have about 80k on my rebuild and I still drive it like I stole it 75% of the time. Show me a 350 with over 200k that hasn't been babied it's whole life.
Do what you want. 350's are a fine engine, but don't go claiming they hold up better than a 22R, especially not on this site. Half the reason people love these trucks so much is because the engines are so bomb proof.
Well, enough of that rant. Not trying to flame ya, just expressing my very strong opinion on the subject. Good luck with whatever engine you choose.
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Yeah i was about to keep the 22r but don't think everything would hold together pulling bigger tires if i didn't have friends with 40s and 44s i would probably keep the 22r and just 35s.
And Travis i like how wide yours is yeah beats purpose of the small axles and go anywhere but I'm not doing it right away i.ma see what i can do with stock axles before converting to wider ones
And Travis i like how wide yours is yeah beats purpose of the small axles and go anywhere but I'm not doing it right away i.ma see what i can do with stock axles before converting to wider ones
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As long as its the L series it should bolt up from what I understand I might be doing a 5spd swap my self pretty soon so i searched and I think the L series bolt up someone please correct me if I'm wrong
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This might sound stupid but can you flip a solid axle front end to where the housing is on the passenger side. Just wondering in case both of the transmissions i have are not L series
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I guess I'm not quite following you.. The Toyota front axle has the diff on the passenger side. If you swap tranny to anything it should still be on the same side. If you running a Chevy it's same drop as Toyota unless you get into the newer Chevy ifs stuff, but I wouldn't run those t-case anyway. Maybe need to clarify your your question to why? And no you can't just flip the axle over or it'll will run in the opposite direction.
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Ya you can lift it and trim the body and fit 40's just don't expect the stock axles to hold up to it very long unless you take it really easy or start upgrading the stock parts.