cool breeze

On my recently acquired 1st gen runner with twin sticks that had been installed about 5 years ago i have a little issue.
Driving down the road i noticed the 4wd arm was leaning, upon removing the boot to check it out the whole damn arm just came off. Look like it was made with a crappy weld that finally gave it up.

Called TG and they said all they would do is give me a discount on buying a new one so i told them how about standing behind your product...no dice.
Has this happened to anyone else and what did you do for a repair?
thanks!

millball

A pic is worth a thousand words.

If that part has been in service 5 years and you just got the truck, who knows what abuse it has suffered.

old87yota

^^ If you do not know the complete history of the 4Runner, you really have no idea of why the shifter is the way it is.

The fact that YOU did not install the twin sticks in the first place would void most warranties.

To be honest, Trail Gear gave you a generous offer considering you did not buy their product, it was already installed when you bought the truck.

Like millball said, a picture is worth a thousand words. Can you just re-weld the shifter/arm?

dropzone

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yep who knows what it went through, a 6 year old pushing off it to get in the back seat a few times will shorten its livespan

edit- so you bought Dirtco's old turbo, this has gone through a couple of owner's since he sold it..

CoyoteJake

As someone who is currently looking to buy this twin stick setup, I'd sure like to hear from anyone else who uses it.

rattlewagon

My tg twin stick been going strong for 5ish years now. No regerts. Bought because I needed to convert a fwd shift to a top shift and it wasnt that much more to add the twin stick.

OldBlueMidnight

I love the TG twin stick setup in my '85. When I first installed it, it would bang against the edge of the hole in the tunnel every time I started the truck or clutched it hard. So I replaced the stock trans mount with a stiff poly unit, that solved the problem. It's the 4wd arm that would get banged up if the trans mount wasn't stiff enough to keep it off the tunnel, so that could be the cause of the problem in this post. For my truck the twin stick unlocks a lot of functionality.

Jaketheone46

I’m interested in knowing what a twin stick is besides 2 sticks obviously. What exactly do they accomplish and why?? Is there a benefit? And will it bolt up in a stock configuration without modifications??

rattlewagon

It separates high/low and 2wd/4wd into two sticks, allowing for 2wd low range. You have to take the transfer case apart and pull out a pin, so while the shifter does just bolt on, you have to disassemble the t case to make it work.

dropzone

iTrader: (6)

plus it looks cool but even cooler when you have triple sticks

Jaketheone46

Thanks for the response, by take the transfer case apart are you meaning pull the t case and split it or from the top only?? Seems like a lot of work for a second stick when you can have 2 low with manual hubs. But I can see this being really cool specially if your in there anyway doing something like switching to a lower range low. I’d definitely like a lower range low for the extra slow stuff.

rattlewagon

You need to have the t case on a bench, but doesn't need to be totally split. Trail gear has really good instructions on their page that shows how it needs to be done.
https://trail-gear.com/downloads/pdf...7500-1-INS.pdf

yes, hubs unlocked does the same thing, but I have drive flanges, so they cant be unlocked. I mainly did the twin stick because I was converting from a forward shift to a top shift while putting in lower gears and needed to buy a shifter anyway.

Is it necessary, no. It is cool? Yes. And combined with a rear disconnect shaft, you could potentially do front diggs.

Jaketheone46

So is this a twin case setup or single case with lower gears?? If you can get that low with a single case why would anyone need a dual t case setup?
Or perhaps yours is a dual case setup.. I want the lowest possible with a single case and if I do it I would also go twin stick just for that cool factor alone.

Jaketheone46

Now wait a minute here, triple sticks? What’s the third stick do. I understand the twin stick now but just realized there are 3 sticks here. Perhaps the 3rd stick is the original stick so you still can go with the original setup as well while also having twin stick?